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Hi there,

I am looking for my relation Ann Robinson wife of Samuel Robinson in the 1841 census onwards.

She was baptised in Dudley, Worcestershire on 6 Jan. 1822, and married in Sedley, Staffordshire.

Can you spot this couple?

Thank you,

Peter

1861?

Name: Ann Robinson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Saml Robinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Dudley
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 2055
Folio: 71
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Saml Robinson 40 b Dudley -Labourer
Ann Robinson 39 Nailer
William Robinson 21 b Dudley - Labourer

Peter - do you know of any children they may have had?

When and where did they marry?

1841 England Census about Ann Robinson
Name: Ann Robinson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Female
Where born: Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
Hundred: Halfshire (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Stiches Bank

Occupation: (of Samuel) Labourer

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Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1196
Book: 12
Folio: 23
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Robinson 20
Ann Robinson 19
William Robinson 1
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1851 England Census about Saml Robinson
Name: Saml Robinson
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Robinson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Dudley
Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: labourer

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 2032
Folio: 223
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Saml Robinson 29
Ann Robinson 29
Wm Robinson 11

1841?

Name: Ann Robinson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Female
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Dudley
Hundred: Halfshire (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1196
Book: 12
Folio: 23
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Robinson 20
Ann Robinson 19
William Robinson 1

Is this the marriage?


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Ann Heathcock
Name: Ann Heathcock
Gender: Female
Father's Name: William Heathcock
Spouse's Name: Samuel Robinson
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Robinson
Marriage Date: 2 Sep 1839
Marriage Place: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

Hi there,

Thank you - yes that seems to be the correct family. I've not yet seen the marriage certificate but that seems to confirm this marriage really. Plus I beleive Sedgley and Dudley are close to one another.

I am really looking to see when she died if this is possible.

Does she appear on the later census?

Peter

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Ann Robinson
Name: Ann Robinson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1869
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 81

Oh that is sad - but thank you Gins!

And thank you also K, Catherine and Marie Celeste for the census help.

Can you now see her widow and son? I would like to see what became of them?

Thank you!

Peter

HI Peter

Try here for BMDs


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

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Thank you Gins - I am already looking there but the common names makes it difficult. I understand if you are not able to look, but perhaps it is easier to find these people using their approx year of birth and birth place to find them in the census? Then the Free BMD site can come secondary, for specific deaths and marriages.

Peter
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1881 England Census
abName: Samuel Robinson
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Robinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 65 Vauxhall St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2878
Folio: 86
Page Number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Robinson 59
Sarah Robinson 44


Marriages Jun 1870
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ROBINSON Samuel Dudley 6c 192
Worton Sarah Ann Dudley 6c 192

maybe?

1911 England Census about William Robinson
Name: William Robinson
Age in 1911: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation to Head: Uncle
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dudley, Worcestershire
Civil parish: Aldridge
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Wharf , Aldridge
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Walsall
Registration District Number: 370
Sub-registration district: Aldridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 17
Piece: 17189
Household Members:
Name Age
John Robinson 55
Sarah Jane Robinson 55
William Robinson 70 - Widower

1861 England Census
about Sarah Am Worton
Name: Sarah Am Worton
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Worton
Mother's name: Hannah Worton
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 2058
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Worton 54
Hannah Worton 50
Sarah Am Worton 23
Phillis Worton 21
Thomas Worton 18
Elizebeth Worton 16
Hannah Worton 14
Elisha Worton 10

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1871 England Census about William Robinson
Name: William Robinson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Robinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Netherton; Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 3016
Folio: 86
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
William Robinson 30
Ellen Robinson 28
Walter W Robinson 13
Williams J Robinson 4
Edward Robinson 2
Hannah Robinson 5 Months
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Marriages Mar 1864 (>99%)
Boftun Ellen Dudley 6c 138
Marsh Rosanna Dudley 6C 138
Piddock William Dudley 6c 138
Robinson William Dudley 6c 138
or
Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)
CHILDS John Dudley 6c 156
Golden Ellen Dudley 6c 156
Matthews Elizabeth Ann Dudley 6c 156
ROBINSON William Dudley 6c 156
or
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
Jones John Dudley 6c 45
Parkes Susannah Dudley 6c 45
Pearce Ellen Dudley 6c 45
ROBINSON William Dudley 6c 45
.................................................................................

same family:-

1881 England Census about William Robinson
Name: William Robinson
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Robinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: St Andrews Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2881
Folio: 80
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William Robinson 50
Ellen Robinson 39
Walter Will. Robinson 23
William J. Robinson 14
Edward Robinson 13
Hannah Robinson 10
Albert Robinson 5
Marshall Robinson 3
Henery Robinson

Thank you that is great and proves your marriage/death theory for Ann:

groom's name: Samuel Robinson
groom's birth date: 1822
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 48
bride's name: Sarah Ann Worton
bride's birth date: 1837
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 33
marriage date: 1870
marriage place: Sedgley, Stafford, England
groom's father's name: Thomas Robinson
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Thomas Worton
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M13535-7
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1040794
reference number: 2:3C7NV9N

RE The 1911 I really don't know at the minute.

Thank you so much for this help!

again same family, just in case:-

1891 England Census about William Robinson
Name: William Robinson
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Robinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Bricklayer

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2297
Folio: 135
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Robinson 60
Sarah Robinson 55
Edward Robinson 22
Albert Robinson 15
Marshall Robinson 12
Henery Robinson 10
Martha Homer 82
Susannah Guest 73
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" IF " this is the death of Ellen:-

Deaths Jun 1882 (>99%)
ROBINSON Ellen 40 Dudley 6c 65

then this is a possible remarriage:-

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
BROOKS Sarah Dudley 6c 63
ROBINSON William Dudley 6c 63

or

Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
Hipkiss Joseph Dudley 6c 140
LAWLEY Sophia Dudley 6c 140
Robinson William Dudley 6c 140
SMITH Sarah Dudley 6c 140

Oh great - William can't tell his own age! Never helps.

Thank you for this. I need to loo into those documents to confirm it all.

Peter

Peter

I hope you meant 'look' and not 'loo'!!!


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Haha yes Gins! Correct! I need to LOOK

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