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Census help please 1851/1861

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Sidami

Sidami Report 13 Nov 2012 19:50

I have Thomas Carroll born 1826 Limerick Eireland married to Ellen she was born 1825 Cork on the bmd there is a marriage for a Thomas and Ellen for 1844 this might be them but not sure, is there any way that you can find out when people came over from Eireland to England? can anyone find them on 51 and 61 census please

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 13 Nov 2012 19:53

Hi Sue,

Do you have any other details on this couple? Children?

How do you know the details you have? what other information have you already gained and where from?

We need as much info as possible to help you out.


T x
:-D

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2012 19:54

There are no lists of travel between Ireland and the UK as they were part of the same country at the time.

Andy

Sidami

Sidami Report 13 Nov 2012 19:55

I have a daughter for them called Mary she was born 1881 and was born in Fulham this is all word of mouth as I am trying to help a friend

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 13 Nov 2012 19:59

You have a child born to them when they were in their late 50's?

.....something definitely isn't right there :-\


T x

:-D

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 13 Nov 2012 20:03

Sue,

Shall we start with what you know for sure..... how have you got to Thomas & Mary?

Who did you start with in the tree?

Maybe we can help you retrace your steps, and maybe iron out the kinks?


T x

:-D

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 20:20

1901

Name: Ellen Carroll
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Horwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Horwich Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 3609
Folio: 121
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Carroll 54
James Carroll 29 b. bayswater
Mary F Carroll 20 b. 1881 fulham


Sidami

Sidami Report 13 Nov 2012 20:31

thankyou for that what do you have for 1891 census please as I think this is where we have got the parents from I have Mary Frances Caroll bn 1881 Fulham I believe Ellen to be her mother this may show up on the 1891 does it say that Mary is the daughter for that information on 1901?
I think I may of been given the wrong birth year for Ellen as it looks like it could be 1847

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 20:31

Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
CARROLL Mary Frances Fulham 1a 308

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 20:46

yes it says daughter

trying to find them in 1891

which one did she marry??
Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
CARROLL Mary Frances Bolton 8c 750
KAY Florence Bolton 8c 750
MACN__LL Joseph Bolton 8c 750
QUICKFALL John Goodrich Bolton 8c 750

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 20:53

1911
QUICKFALL, John Head Married M 28 1883 Contractors Labourer Leeds Yorks VIEW
QUICKFALL, Mary Wife Married2 years F 30 1881 London Fullham VIEW
QUICKFALL, Kathleen Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Lincoln Cleethorpes VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 19991

Reference: RG14PN19991 RG78PN1197B RD422 SD1 ED40 SN528

Registration District: Grimsby

Sub District: Great Grimsby

Enumeration District: 40

Parish: Cleethorpes

Address: 103 Mill Road Cleethorpes

County: Lincolnshire

Sidami

Sidami Report 13 Nov 2012 21:05

thankyou very much can you find
Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
CARROLL Mary Frances Fulham on the 1891 please

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 21:19

1871
CARROLL, Thomas Head M 28 1843 Ireland occ. bricklayer
CARROLL, Ellen Wife F 27 1844 Ireland
CARROLL, Marie Daughter F 7 1864 Middlesex
CARROLL, Ellen Daughter F 5 1866 Middlesex
CARROLL, Thomas Son M 3 1868 Middlesex
CARROLL, John Son M 1 1870 Middlesex

Piece: 69

Folio: 97

Page: 37

Registration District: Kensington

Civil Parish: Fulham

Municipal Borough:

Address: Bectine Road, Fulham

County: London, Middlesex

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 21:35

1881

this seems to be where the "funny" ages come from
children all born Fulham

Name: Ellen Carrole
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Carrole
Gender: Female
Where born: Cork Co, Ireland

Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: Hibernian Cott (Chaldon Rd)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Laundress

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 68
Folio: 100
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Carrole 55
Ellen Carrole 56
Ellen Carrole 19
Maria Carrole 17
Thomas Carrole 14
John Carrole 13
James Carrole 11
Edward Carrole 9
Mary Carrole 7
Patrick Carrole 5
Mitchal Carrole 4
Thimothy Carrole 3
Dennis Carrole 2
Johanna Carrole 1
Bridget Carrole

Name: Thomas Carrole
Age: 55 >>>(on the original could be age 35)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Carrole
Gender: Male
Where born: Limerick, Ireland
bricklayer

Sidami

Sidami Report 13 Nov 2012 21:41

Oh thankyou Vicci that has solved a problem wondered why I had those years... are they all the children to Ellen and Thomas?

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 22:50

Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
Barry Ellen Kensington 1a 295
Carroll Thomas Kensington 1a 295

Vicci

Vicci Report 13 Nov 2012 23:22

struggling to find the family in 1891

this is the nearest i can get with Thomas, right age and occupation but wrong wife!

CARROLL, Thomas Head Married M 47 1844 Bricklayer
Ireland
CARROLL, Frances Wife Married F 38 1853
Hampstead

Piece: 50

Folio: 31

Page: 53

Registration District: Fulham

Civil Parish: Fulham

Municipal Borough:

Address: 17, Epirus Road, Fulham

County: London