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Qld Births After 1915 Lookup Please

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RobynM

RobynM Report 15 Nov 2012 08:33

Hello,

I'm looking for the children of Frank Newton ALSTON and Kate Winifred GARBUTT, who were married in 1915 in Ingham (I think).

I believe they had 3 children (although there could be more)

We have so far :-

Charles Rowland ALSTON
Eric Newton ALSTON
Beryl Frances ALSTON (we think around 1923, therefore the boys before that, we assume)

but we don't have any dates.

Could SKS please provide any details ... dates, places etc

Much appreciated.

Cheers
Robyn

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 15 Nov 2012 09:04

Nothing coming up on Freebmd for a marriage or the births? are you sure of the details?

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 15 Nov 2012 09:24

oh sorry just realised that your abbreviation is Queensland ! not with it this morning,

RobynM

RobynM Report 15 Nov 2012 12:28

Yeah, sorry. Should I have spelled Queensland in full? Thought I was posting to the Aussie .com.au site

Yes we have the parent's marriage ... 30 Jan 1915. Don't know where, but assume Ingham, North Queensland, as that's where they were living at the time.

I suppose it's possible that some of the children were born BEFORE they were married, but I don't think so.

Have a death date for the 1st boy, Charles, 9 June 1935, and have seen somewhere that he was 18, which would make his birth year abt 1917, which could be right.

The 2nd boy, Eric. I have seen a newpaper article about a drowning in early Jan 1927 at Magnetic Island, Queensland, of an ALSTON boy aged 7. Assuming he turned 7 sometime in 1926, would make his birth year about abt 1919, which also could be right.

The girl, Beryl, I've seen as 1923, which could also be right, as I've seen shipping notices for the family going back to England in 1936, with the daughter, Beryl, aged 13.

All of this is heresay, and is not confirmed. Would love some REAL dates and places.

Thanks
Cheers
Robyn

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Nov 2012 12:51

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Frank Newton Alston
Spouse Name: Kats Winifred Garbutt
Marriage Date: 30 Jan 1915
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1915
Registration number: 000876
Page Number: 26

Name: Frank Newton Alston
Death Date: 17 May 1960
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Rowland Simpson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Annie Jones
Registration Year: 1960
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: B037937
Page Number: 37

Name: Frank Newton Alston
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1884
Father's Name: Rowland Simpson Alston
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Annie Jones
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 231
Registration number: 001114

(can see above, if no luck try Cherilyn, below link)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324

Chris :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Nov 2012 13:02

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/mainMenuSubmit.m?main_menu=IndexSearch

(not sure of Births after 1914)

Chris :)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 15 Nov 2012 13:29

Death of a son:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Charles Roland Alston
Name: Charles Roland Alston
Death Date: 9 Jun 1935
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Frank Newton
Mother's Name: Kate Winifred Garbutt
Registration Year: 1935
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: 001694
Page Number: 24

His death announcement
:http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61975203?searchTerm=charles%20Alston&searchLimits=l-decade=193|||l-category=Family+Notices|||l-year=1935

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 15 Nov 2012 13:45

THere a quite a few articles on trove re this family on various QLD newspapers
http://trove.nla.gov.au/

These are just a selection.

Jan 1914 Engagement notice for Alston/Garbutt:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/84397703?searchTerm=alston%20garbutt&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices|||l-decade=191

Another dated Dec 1913:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60388343?searchTerm=kitty%20alston%20garbutt&searchLimits=


Edit: Re The article that you referred to about the death of a 7yr old boy
Is this it?
It says she was a 4yr old girl ??

1927
:http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/40572526?searchTerm=frank%20alston&searchLimits=

RobynM

RobynM Report 16 Nov 2012 02:18

Thanks Anne,
Yes, the paper got it wrong.
It was definitely Eric, aged 7. This was confirmed in a later article.

Would love something on the birth, and subsequent marriage of Beryl though.
Can't seem to find anything, other than she was 13 when she travelled with her parents, Frank and Kate, to England in 1936.

Reports are that she married a John Donald TOOTH in 1944, but I can't find anything on that either.

Back to the drawing board I guess.
Thanks everyone for your hard work. I certainly have more today than I had a couple of days ago. Well done. Thanks.

Cheers
Robyn

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 16 Nov 2012 02:55

Did she marry in Aus or the UK?

Ozi

RobynM

RobynM Report 16 Nov 2012 05:22

Married in Ingham, Queensland. But it looks like it was April 1946 now.
But photos on Trove, still have her as Miss Beryl Alston 30 July 1946.
I'm still confused. :-S

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2012 07:16

Would contact Cherilyn on above link, as posted earlier. Worth a try here...

Chris :)

Gins

Gins Report 16 Nov 2012 08:21

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Beryl Alston
Birth Date: abt 1923
Age: 13
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 29 May 1936
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Strathaird
Search Ship Database: View the 'Strathaird' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 162670

With: Frank & Kate, going to 3 Glebe St, Hove, Sussex


Is this your tree at Ancestry?


Alston
Mills and Rowntree Tree owner
Birth: 1923 - Australia
Death: 14 January 1927 (14 Jan 1927) - Queensland, Australia
Parents: Frank Newton Alston, Kate Winifred Garbutt

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2012 08:57

(going back)

Name: Mr F N ALSTON
Date of departure: 23 October 1936
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Brisbane, Australia
Passenger destination: Brisbane, Australia
Date of Birth: 1884 (calculated from age)
Age: 52
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Grazier
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 23
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Miss B F ALSTON Page 7 of 23 (age 13)
Mrs K W ALSTON Page 7 of 23 (age 47)
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
OTRANTO
146025
L V James
Orient
Australia
11978
723

Chris :)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Nov 2012 09:09

There are loads of electoral rolls for Beryl and John Donald Macanish Tooth
Jude

Gins

Gins Report 16 Nov 2012 09:37


Address: 64 Stevenson St
Alston Frank Newton - Grazier, Male 1954 Queensland Lilley Toombul
Alston Kate Winifred Female 1954 Queensland Lilley Toombul


Looks like it's Franks brother

Address: 132 Yabba St
Alston Hugh George - Grazier, Male 1954 Queensland Lilley Toombul
Alston Mabel Finch


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Hugh George Alston
Spouse Name: Mabel Finch Brodie
Marriage Date: 19 Jan 1914
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1914
Registration number: 003689
Page Number: 382

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Nov 2012 09:39

Hugh George was Frank's brother I think - glanced at death record and has same parents

Jude

Gins

Gins Report 16 Nov 2012 09:44

Thanks Jude, I added when I realised it wasnt a son :-)

Is that you on the wedding photo..............sweet :-D

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Nov 2012 14:00

Yes Gins that's my REAL white wedding in 1981 :-)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 16 Nov 2012 14:23


Pasted from above:
"Reports are that she married a John Donald TOOTH in 1944, but I can't find anything on that either."
"Married in Ingham, Queensland. But it looks like it was April 1946 now."

Confusion over Robyn...

Beryl Alston was still unmarried between 1944 and 1946

Beryl Frances Alston Married John Donald Tooth on Thurs 10 Apr 1947!

This is it:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/63015442?searchTerm=beryl%20tooth&searchLimits=l-decade=194

Anne