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Birth of George Morris c.1859

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Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2012 13:08

Hello

George married in 1883 in Parish Church, St Giles Mx to Frances Walford. On Wedding Cert he is shown as age 25, Coachman, Father William Morris Ag Lab.

He died aged 80 in Islington in 1939.

The 1891 census has him borm in Herefordshire.

All help welcome

Thank you

Peter

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Nov 2012 13:13

Have you found him in 1901 or 1911 to confirm his place of birth

Catherine

Catherine Report 16 Nov 2012 13:13

Is this him?

1861 England Census about George Morris
Name: George Morris
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Morris
Mother's Name: Hannah Morris
Gender: Male
Where born: St Weonards, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: St Weonard
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: St Weonards
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1815
Folio: 15
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Morris 38
Hannah Morris 25
George Morris 1

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2012 13:18

Hello GB... 1901 gives his birth place as Middllesex but 1911 it is Herefordshire.

He also gives his name as John G in1901 and he is a widower.

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Hello Catherine ... It could be

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Nov 2012 13:19

Is he John G Morris on 1901 census ?

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Nov 2012 13:19

If you have looked for his birth and haven't found it yourself on freebmd, that will be because it simply wasn't registered.

Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births

Try looking for a baptism

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Nov 2012 13:21

1911 is this him ?
Name: George Morris
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: FAWLEY, Hereford, England - looks more like Hamley on images
Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 94 Midhope Buildings, Kings Cross, W C
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: CARMAN
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: South St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 699
Household Members: Name Age
George Morris 52
Ethel Morris 18
Kathleen Morris 16
Thomas Lamb 69

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2012 13:22

Yes , that's him in 1911

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Nov 2012 13:29

Perhaps he wasn't Morris at birth

Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
Morris William Ross 6a 607
Watkins Hannah Ross 6a 607

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Nov 2012 13:30

?????

Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
WATKINS George Ross 6a 394

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2012 13:34

Thank you Reggie . I'll keep that in mind

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Looking through my research I found a brother John William Morris c.1856

Catherine

Catherine Report 16 Nov 2012 13:36

1891 England Census about George Morris
Name: George Morris
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: France Morris
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 126
Folio: 92
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
George Morris 32
France Morris 32
Annie Morris 7
Florence Morris 5
Alice Morris 3
George Morris 1
Beatrice Walford 18

Astra

Astra Report 16 Nov 2012 13:38

This is a possible

MARSTON, Richard Head Unmarried M 57 1804 Grinder 20 Acres
High Ercall, Shropshire VIEW
MARSTON, James Lodger Widower M 64 1797 Carter
High Ercall, Shropshire VIEW
MARRIS, John Lodger Married M 24 1837 Railway Labourer
Churchill, Gloster VIEW >>>>>think it should read Morris
MARRIS, Jane Lodger Married F 24 1837
Holmer, Herefordshire VIEW
MARRIS, William Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Holmer, Herefordshire VIEW
MARRIS, George Son M 3 1858
Holmer, Herefordshire VIEW
MARRIS, Mary Ann Daughter F 0 (4M) 1861
Broom Hopesay, Shropshire VIEW
GROVES, Elizabeth Lodger Unmarried F 18 1843 Spinster
Aldon Stokesay, Shropshire VIEW
PEARCE, John Servant Married M 46 1815 Drainer
Clee Hill, Shropshire VIEW
MATTHEWS, John Lodger Unmarried M 40 1821 Agricultural Labourer
Jersey VIEW

Piece: 1839 Folio: 50 Page: 10 Registration District: Ludlow Civil Parish: Stokesay Municipal Borough: Earnstrey Parks Address: Newton, Stokesay, Earnstrey Parks County: Shropshire

Mother later marries George Cole

COLE, George Head Married M 36 1845 Jointer & Pipe Layer (G W Service)
Toddington, Bedfordshire VIEW
COLE, Jane Wife Married F 47 1834
Holmor, Herefordshire VIEW
MORRIS, George Son Single M 22 1859 General Laborer
Holmor, Herefordshire VIEW
WHITAKER, Ann Single F 73 1808 Receiving Parish Relief
St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW

Piece: 263 Folio: 45 Page: 27 Registration District: Islington Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 8, Ecclesbourne Rd, Islington County: London, Middlesex

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2012 13:43

Thank you Astra............... George's father William was alive in 1883 for his wedding.

Possibly he wasn't their son but just lodging there

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Nov 2012 13:44

Different family then, from the 1861 posted by Catherine

Mentioning the older brother earlier in your posts would have been helpful

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Nov 2012 13:45

Did the father sign the register in 1883?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Nov 2012 13:46

The fact that William was not marked as deceased does not mean he was still alive.

Depends on whether the question was asked or not

Astra

Astra Report 16 Nov 2012 13:46

How do you know his father was alive in 1883?

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2012 13:52

Astra .. I assumed so as he wasn't shown as deceased on his son's wedding cert.

If I read your post correctly you are looking at the wrong family as his father was William.

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Reggie ......... His father didn't sign the register. Witnesses were John Edward Budgen and Elizabeth Walford ( sister of bride).

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Point taken GB