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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 16 Nov 2012 22:30

i am looking ameila emma fox. born abt 1893 .married 27/9/1914 at st john the evangelist. walworth. southwark. she died abt 1950. her father i think was james owen fox born i do not know .who was her mother, and who was the children. i have tryed on bmd. and from 15- something to 19somthing, i can not find james owen fox, can any one help please. yvonne.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 16 Nov 2012 22:32

for ref

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Amelia Emma Fox Name: Amelia Emma Fox
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 21
Spouse Name: William Ernest Warwick
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Sep 1914
Parish: Walworth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Owen Fox <<<<<<Scaffolder
Spouse Father Name: James Warwick
Register Type: Parish Register

patchem

patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 22:33

Just for ref:
Marriages Sep 1914
Fox Amelia E Warwick Southwark 1d 188
Warwick William E Fox Southwark 1d 188

Did she lie about her age?
Births Mar 1897
Fox Amelia Emma St. Saviour 1d 65

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 16 Nov 2012 22:41

1911 England Census
about Amelia Fox Name: Amelia Fox
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Newington St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Chatteris Road, Walworth, Newington SE
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: SERVANT
Registration district: Southwark
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration district: Newington North
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 1803
Household Members: Name Age
James Fox 45 <<<bricklayers labourer ...which would tie in with scaffolder?
Emily Fox 33
Amelia Fox 14
Edward Fox 2
Elizabeth Margeret Fox 0


Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Nov 2012 22:41


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Births Mar 1897 -

Fox Amelia Emma - St. Saviour 1d 65

patchem

patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 22:41

?
1911
FOX, James Head Married M 45 1866 Bricklayers Labourer Lambeth Walk
FOX, Emily Wife Married5 years F 33 1878 Pollards Buildings
FOX, Amelia Daughter Single F 14 1897 Servant Joiner ST
FOX, Edward Son M 2 1909 Chatters RD
FOX, Elizabeth Margaret Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Chatters RD
RG number: RG14 Piece: 1803
Reference: RG14PN1803 RG78PN64 RD23 SD4 ED11 SN229
Registration District: Southwark Sub District: Newington North Enumeration District: 11
Parish: St Mary Newington Address: 1 Chatteris Road Newington S E
County: London

Added:
Marrid 5 years, but 3 children born and living to the marriage - not quite strictly accurate, or another child elsewhere?
Anyway, who is Amelia's mother?

patchem

patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 22:52

?
1901 England Census
James Fox
Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Lodger Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England
Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 23 Piece: 405 Folio: 64 Page Number: 3
Mary Fox 53 widow
James Fox 35 son single
ADDED: Sorry, this says lodger single, senior moment writing son.
Amelia Fox 4 dau
Richard Miller 41
Norah Miller 36
Richard Miller 9
John Ethridge 63
John Ethridge 38
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 405; Folio: 64; Page: 3.

Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Nov 2012 22:53

1901 ????

Joseph B Apsey -40
Amelia Apsey -38
Henry Apsey -18
Mary Apsey -6
Mary Fox 53 - widow
James Fox 35 -lodger - Lambeth
Amelia Fox 4 -St Georges
Richard Miller 41
Norah Miller 36
Richard Miller 9
John Ethridge 63
John Ethridge 38

patchem

patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 22:57

This is a James O from Lambeth, but not with mother Mary:
1871 England Census
James O Fox
Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Fox
Mother's Name: Harriet Fox
Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth
Civil parish: St George Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: London
Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 57 Piece: 609
Folio: 61 Page Number: 8
Edward Fox 33
Harriet Fox 27
Amelia Fox 8
James O Fox 7
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 609; Folio: 61; Page: 8; GSU roll: 818911.

?
Births Jun 1864
FOX James Owen Edward Lambeth 1d 281

Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Nov 2012 22:58

The original doesn't say son, it says lodger, single.

patchem

patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 23:03

James Owen Edward Fox
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1864
Father's Name: Edward Fox
Mother's Name: Harriett Mary Ann Fox
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Sometimes Harriet, sometimes Mary?

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 16 Nov 2012 23:03

Name: James Owen Edward Fox
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1864
Father's Name: Edward Fox
Mother's Name: Harriett Mary Ann Fox
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 16 Nov 2012 23:04

snap Patchem :-D

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 16 Nov 2012 23:05

Miswritten as female, clearly says daughter on image

1881 England Census
about Jas.O.E. Fox Name: Jas.O.E. Fox
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Harriett M.A. Fox
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth

Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 12 Johanna St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Box Maker

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 587
Folio: 104
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Harriett M.A. Fox 36
Amelia E. Fox 18
Jas.O.E. Fox 16 <<<<
John Cobey 19


Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 16 Nov 2012 23:14

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)

Fox Edward Lambeth 1d 331
Lane Harriett Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 331

patchem

patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 23:19

?
Edward Fox (Mason)
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Harriett Mary Ann Lane (minor)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Jan 1862
Parish: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: James Fox (Mason)
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Charles Lane
Register Type: Parish Register

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 17 Nov 2012 02:46

Think you need to get the 1897 birth certificate, Yvonne! :)

patchem

patchem Report 17 Nov 2012 06:58

Could this be her death?
Ellen E M A Warwick
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1948
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Uxbridge
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 95

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 19 Nov 2012 22:27

Hi i am confusse. which mother is amelia emma fox. her father was james owen fox. is it harriett m a .lane, who is masson. i see edward fox [mason]how do that come in, how do the name miller .and apsey.please. thank you. yvonne.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 19 Nov 2012 22:50

Yvonne,

Apseys and Millers are not connected, they just happen to be living in the same residence, it's common for two families to be sharing a house or as in the 1901 census where James is lodging with the Apsey family.