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Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Nov 2012 09:24

My G/F refused to allow any discussion regarding his father, Charles George McCoy 1869/71 or his father John ( date ?) or any of their siblings so we do not know much about them except they were often involved with the police which might explain the reluctance.
Family stories tell that Charles had 3 sisters, all of whom emigrated , but, the only possible trace of Charles might be the 1881 census ( right age) and he had all brothers.
That census, if it is him, has his mother as Anorah and there seem to be no trace of any marriage to John or his death that we can find.
Any views or tips would be appreciated.
Suzanne

Flip

Flip Report 20 Nov 2012 09:32

which country/area were they from?

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Nov 2012 09:38

hi Flip
Sorry but we are very, very new at this
We do not know where the parents originated from and the refusal to discuss didn't help.
Charles George was born in Clerkenwell London and like most of our descendants lived in the East End of London in Shoreditch.
We suspect that John might have come from Ireland and think that Anorah is possibly an Irish name.

Gins

Gins Report 20 Nov 2012 09:39

Is this him?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Charles George McCoy
Name: Charles George McCoy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Florence Elizabeth Hall
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Apr 1889
Parish: Clerkenwell St Paul
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John McCoy
Spouse Father Name: George Hall
Register Type: Parish Register

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 09:39

Is this his marriage??

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charles George McCoy
Name: Charles George McCoy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Florence Elizabeth Hall
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Apr 1889
Parish: Clerkenwell St Paul
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John McCoy
Spouse Father Name: George Hall
Register Type: Parish Register

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 09:40

'Emigrated'.....from where......to where?

Born....where?

You should be working back from your grandfather...........get his birth cert for factual info about his parents

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 09:43

If you've found the man in 1881, you MUST know where he was born........and where his mother was born

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Nov 2012 09:44

yes it seems to be, so many thanks.
It is unlikely that he was an only child at the time of large families but we have no idea who they were and how many brothers and sisters........
Likewise with father John

Gins

Gins Report 20 Nov 2012 09:45

1881 England Census
about Charles Mecoy
Name: Charles Mecoy
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Anorah Mecoy
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Clerkenwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 8 Wilmington Place
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Amwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 350
Folio: 119
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Anorah Mecoy 42
Edward Mecoy 21
John Mecoy 14
Charles Mecoy 10
Henry Mecoy 9


Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 09:50

Thank you Gins...............

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 09:51

From the 1881, so helpfully provided by Gins, the mother's birthplace is recorded as LONDON, St Andrews.

Didn't you notice that, Suzanne?

The sons were all born London, St James

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 09:54

Suzanne, who was your grandfather?

Do you have proof that he was the son of of Charles George?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Nov 2012 09:57

Further details from the marriage entry..........

Charles........Batchelor age 20........Glass Blower
Res: Corperation Row.
Father John........Occ: Bricklayer

Florence....Spinster age 19
Father George...Deceased.

Witnesses: William and Margaret Rockcliffe.

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 09:57

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Florence Elizabeth McCoy
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Apr 1894
Father's Name: Charles George McCoy
Mother's Name: Florence Elizabeth McCoy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St James
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 09:59

1911 census

Person: MECOY, Florence Address: 247 Kingsland Road


PRESCOTT, William Head Widower M 55 1856 Butchers Porter London City VIEW
ALINE, William Henry Boarder Single M 39 1872 Butchers Porter London Shoreditch VIEW
MECOY, Florence Elizabeth Boarder Married22 years F 40 1871 Stratford VIEW
MECOY, Florence Boarder Single F 17 1894 Waitress Dining Rooms London St Lukes VIEW
MECOY, Lizzie Boarder F 10 1901 School London Clerkenwell VIEW
MECOY, George Boarder M 8 1903 School London St Lukes VIEW
MECOY, Violet Boarder F 5 1906 School London St Lukes

8 children born to Florence........2 have died

Flip

Flip Report 20 Nov 2012 09:59

Florence Mecoy
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Luke
Civil parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 247 Kingsland Road
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: WAITRESS DINING ROOMS
Registration district: Shoreditch
Registration District Number: 16
Sub-registration district: Shoreditch North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 1360
Household Members: Name Age
William Prescott 55
William Henry Eline 39
Florence Elizabeth Mecoy 40
Florence Mecoy 17
Lizzie Mecoy 10
George Mecoy 8
Violet Mecoy 5

States Florence Elizabeth married 22 years - but no sign of Charles.

1901 -

Florence E McCoy
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles McCoy
Mother's Name: Florence E McCoy
Gender: Female
Where born: St Luke, London, England

Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Old Street
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 384
Piece: 259
Folio: 67
Page Number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Charles McCoy 30
Florence E McCoy 29
Charles A McCoy 11
Florence E McCoy 7
Willie A McCoy 4
Lizzie McCoy 11 Months


Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 10:01

Perhaps, Suzanne, you have confused the info about your grandfather's siblings with those of his father.

If George as per 1911 was your grandfather, he certainly had at least 3 sisters!

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Nov 2012 10:02

any emigration is based on family stories, from my late mother although she was remarkably accurate on other information.
However even she was not aware of the court records we found so 'secrecy' was G/Fs obsession.
The 3 'sisters' are said to have gone to Australia, NZ, and Canada but which and where is unknown... she was also constrained in that information like us.
Assume since this family lived all their known life in London then the start place for emigration might be England.
My mother did not even know the names of the 3 sisters.
What little information we have, ie father John, is from documents although we do not know when or where John was born or married .
We are primarily trying to find the parents and/or siblings of G/F.
We can only speculate who his mother was or where she was born and there seems to be no actual record of Charles's birth that we have found.

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 10:04

You've been informed about where Anorah said she was born

Reggie

Reggie Report 20 Nov 2012 10:06

Now that you have info from 1911, you can start researching the names on freebmd