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Marian Report 22 Nov 2012 19:53

On immigration arrivals 1878 - 1960 Ancestry has the above, Race is the surname, arriving at Southampton. It doesn't have a date. Could someone please take a look to see where he had been and with who and when he had gone. This just says arrival. Thank you.
PS - I have all his other details ie birth marriage death probate etc its just the immigration bit I didn't know about.


alviegal Report 22 Nov 2012 20:06

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Allan Byers Race
Name: Allan Byers Race
Birth Date: abt 1886
Age: 51
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 2 Aug 1937
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Durban
[Port Elizabeth]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Winchester Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Winchester Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: The Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 162489

He was with Edith Mary, 49 and Yvonne, 17. They were going to 1 Manchester Rd, Manchester 21. He was an engineer.
They embarked at Madeira.


GlasgowLass Report 22 Nov 2012 20:08

Travelling from Durban, South Africa.via Madeira
Aboard the RMMV Winchester Castle arriving Southhampton 2 Aug 1937
Alan Byers reace age 51 Electrical Engineer
Edith Mary Race age 49
Yvonne Race age 17
All born England

Address in UK:
I Manchester Road, Manchester

Looks as if they boarded at Madeira


Marian Report 22 Nov 2012 20:11

Thank you both for that :-)


George_of_Westbury Report 22 Nov 2012 20:20

This looks like him leaving the UK, cant check the original image, keep getting error message

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mr A B RACE
Date of departure: 15 July 1937
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Madeira
Destination country: Madeira

Date of Birth: 1886 (calculated from age)
Age: 51
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 12


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -



Official Number: 129074
Master's name: E G Cumley
Steamship Line: U.C.M.S.S.Co.Ltd
Where bound: South Africa
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 7503
Passengers on voyage: 353



Marian Report 22 Nov 2012 20:34

Thank you George. :-)


MarieCeleste Report 22 Nov 2012 23:28

The outgoing record (comes up OK on US version of FMP) shows their UK address as 1 Manchester Road.

Given the short time they were away looks more like a holiday than any sort of immigration.


Marian Report 24 Nov 2012 18:22

Just logged on after a couple of days, thanks.


Marian Report 25 Nov 2012 20:27

On Ancestry in Public Members Trees there are entries for Byers Race and Allan Byers Race (grandfather and grandson) is it possible for someone with membership to Ancestry to click on one of them to see what records have been attached. Thank you.


MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2012 20:39

I believe that Ancestry trees are on Mundia:


Marian Report 25 Nov 2012 20:49

Thanks, I'll try that.


Kucinta Report 25 Nov 2012 22:31

The 'Holmes family tree' on Ancestry has photos of Byers Race, son Edwin John Race and his wife Annie, and grandson Allan Byers Race, and great granddaughter Yvonne Race.


Marian Report 25 Nov 2012 23:08

thanks, I logged onto the Mundia site which I didn't know existed and I've copied the photos which are great because I can put faces to names. I've also sent an email off to make contact so am hopeful of a reply. Once again, help from Genes members has come up trumps. :-)