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1901 England Census
about Lucy Simm Name: Lucy Simm
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Haydock
Ecclesiastical parish: Haydock St James the Great
Town: Haydock
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Newton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 171
Piece: 3573
Folio: 46
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Jno Swift 29
Eliz A Swift 24
Lucy Simm 15



1901 England Census
about Annie Simms Name: Annie Simms
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Belfast, Ireland

Civil parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 184
Piece: 3521
Folio: 137
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Potter 52
Mary Potter 45
William Potter 21
Frederick Potter 19
Franker Potter 16
Ada A J Potter 12
Lavenia M Potter 6
Annie Simms 17
Alfred Sallkells 25


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James Simm & Elizabeth Jane Potter
Peter 1876 England
Martha Jane 1878 England
Bessie 1881 England
Ann 1883 Belfast
Lucy 1885 Belfast
James 1888 Belfast
William 1894 Belfast
No Ruth

Brian...There were many variations to surname spellings which is why it often seems confusing...if you look at Peter 1911 he is down as Simms...Agnes is SIMM.....possibly a transcription error or Peter forgot the "s"when filling out the form.....!!!
If you get your grandmothers MC that will give you her father's name and occupation.
Unfortunately the motherboard on my computer has "died" and I am having to use an iPad at the moment....not my favourite piece of technology...!

Hi All
Thanks again the more you look into it the more confusing its getting and the Simm & Simms I do belive its Simm though,
Brian :-S

1899 Belfast street directory
No 13 Newcastle street James Simms Boilermaker

Date Of Marriage 15/11/1896 ST ANNE'S Church of Ireland Belfast
Husband PETER SIMMS
Occupation LABOURER
Age 21
Marital Status Bachelor
Father JAMES SIMMS, Occupation BOILER MAKER
Wife AGNES BURROWS
Occupation WINDER
Age 21
Marital Status Spinster
Father THOMAS BURROWS, Occupation LABOURER
Witnesses JOHN LEGGE & MARY ANDERSON
Both give 9 Elizabeth ST. as their address

I can't find her either.

This is worth checking out,
1881 England Census
about Peter Simm Name: Peter Simm
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Peter Simm
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jane Simm
Gender: Male
Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Parr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 60 Park Road
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3738
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Simm 26 [ his name scored out on the original image]
Elizabeth Jane Simm 25
Martha Jane Simm 2
Bessie Simm
Peter Simm 4

Thanks Maura...
The brain is just not engaging at the moment...!
Got sidetracked by fact Peter was down as Simms....the others SIMM
Cannot find Ruth anywhere 1901...

Peter's not in Weyland street in 1911

Census Years1911DownOrmeauOgilvie StreetResidents of a house
Residents of a house 88 in Ogilvie Street (Ormeau, Down)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Simms Peter 34 Male Head of Family Church of God England Boiler Maker Read and write - Married - 14 4 3
Simm Agnes 32 Female Wife Church of God Co Antrim - Read and write - Married - 14 - -
Simms Robert James 12 Male Son Church of God Co Down Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Simms Lillian 9 Female Daughter Church of God Co Down Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Simms Ethel 5 Female Daughter Church of God Co Down Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Report any error in transcription


His wife is an Agnes Burrows, they married 15th November 1896 in St. Anne's C.O.I. Belfast Co. Antrim
Peter's father a James
Agnes's father a Thomas


Forename Surname Age Date of death Date of burial Cemetery Details Record image
James Simms 45 Years 1 February 1899 4 February 1899 City Cemetery
Peter Simms 80 Yr 20 February 1962 22 February 1962 City Cemetery
Bessie Simm 16 6/12 Years 23 August 1897 25 August 1897 City Cemetery
Agnes Simm 91 Y 20 December 1969 23 December 1969 City Cemetery
Elizabeth Jane Simm 44 Years 29 June 1900 1 July 1900 City Cemetery




Lucy Simm that married Robert Thompson father was John

Hi All,
Thanks again I am gobsmacked with the info you have found I will do some more digging :-)

siblings?

Peter
Lucy
James
William
Ruth

looks like william in 1911

Name: William Simm
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Belfast, Ireland
Civil parish: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 51 Holme Terrace
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Shop Assistant
Registration district: Wigan
Registration District Number: 458
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 23007
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Blacow 29
Jennie Blacow 31
Bessie Blacow 5
Louis Lowe 20
William Simm 16


NB on the 1901 census posted William is stated as brother of Peter not son.

The 1911 Census show Peter and family at same address ...states 4 children born 3 living...3 children listed...

I am wondering about this one at Beerbridge Rd...Thompson/ Simm..all b Belfast
James is also a Baptist



Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Thompson William Robert 26 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Thompson Lucy 25 Female Wife -
Thompson Martha Simm Female Daughter -
Thompson Joseph 18 Male Brother -
Simm James 23 Male Brother in Law

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name: Ruth Simm
registration district: Belfast
event type: BIRTHS
registration quarter and year: Jan - Mar 1897
estimated birth year:
age (at death):
mother's maiden name:
film number: 101066
volume number: 1
page number: 444
digital folder number: 4193980
image number: 00407
Citing this Record

"Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBN6-D3X : accessed 27 Nov 2012), Ruth Simm, Jan - Mar 1897; citing vol. 1, p. 444, General Registry, Custom House, Dublin, Ireland; FHL microfilm 101066.

is this her in 1911?

Name: Ruth Simm
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Great Nice
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Belfast, Ireland
Civil parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 45 Osborne Rd Harpurhey Manchester
Occupation: Housemaid (domestic)
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Failsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 24253
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Thompson 77
Ruth Simm 14

Ballymacarrett or Ballymacarret (from Irish: Baile Mhic Gearóid meaning "MacGearóid's settlement")[1] is the name of both a townland and electoral ward in Belfast. The townland is in County Down


1901 census
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Residents of a house 12 in Weyland Street (Pottinger, Down)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Simm William 6 Male Brother Baptist
Simm Peter 24 Male Head of Family Baptist
Simm Robert James 2 Male Son Baptist
Simm Agnes 22 Female Wife Baptist

If anyone wants to help or direct me, my Grandmother was Ruth Simm Born about 1897 or 1900 she had a brother called William Simm born in Balamacaret about 1895 thats all I know

The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Brian ...If you need any help why dont you list who where and when...
Plenty help on here to get you started...

Hi All,
Thanks for your assistance I have plenty to go at now
Brian :-D

There is no site with complete BMD's for Ireland, some of these sites may be help you

familysearch.org
emeraldancestors.com
ancestryireland.com
rootsireland.ie
http://www.ulsterancestry.com/
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
http://countydown.x10.mx/
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives.htm
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/