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Hi, Iam looking for the birth of my 2xgt grandfather John Thomas Johnson, I've tried the IGI site and can't find him. If someone could help or point me in the right direction, that would be great. He married Rosa Tennison 22/8/1860 at St James Church in the Parish of Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull, both 'of full age' . He was a painter & Living in Kingston St. Hull at the time. His father was Robert Johnson(dec?), a mariner. Also I,be been unable to find them on any census until 1871 when they were living in Heath St. Liverpool,
Help please!
Chris
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for info
1871
Name: John Johnson
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosa Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 3783
Folio: 112
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Johnson 33
Rosa Johnson 31 b. : PA, Patrington Holderness
Edward Johnson 6
Jesse Clark 38 boarder
Robert Johnson 1 Year, 6
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John Johnson
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Hull
census: 1851 England
name: John Johnson
age: 45
gender: M
birthplace: Hull
relationship to head of household: Head
record type: Household
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Robert Johnson
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Hull
census: 1851 England
name: Robert Johnson
age: 36
gender: M
birthplace: Hull
relationship to head of household: Head
record type: Household
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Here's wife Rosa in 1861 - states she is a painters wife, but no sign of John:
Rosa Johnson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Partington, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 67
Folio: 68
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
John Hargrave 37
Jane Hargrave 30
Rosamund Hargrave 9
Rosa Johnson 24
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1851
Maybe
JOHNSON, Elizabeth Head Widow F 44 1807 Grocer
Hull, Yorkshire VIEW
JOHNSON, John T Son M 14 1837 Scholar
Hull, Yorkshire VIEW
JOHNSON, Ellen E Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar
Hull, Yorkshire VIEW
FEWSTER, Jane W Married F 30 1821
Stockwith, Nottinghamshire VIEW
COOK, Emma J Niece F 3 1848
Hull, Yorkshire VIEW
Piece: 2363 Folio: 560 Page: 40 Registration District: Hull Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull Address: 44, Cogan Street, Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)
1841
CLARK, Mary F 70 1771 Yorkshire VIEW
JOHNSON, Elizabeth F 34 1807 Yorkshire VIEW
JOHNSON, Mary F 6 1835 Yorkshire VIEW
JOHNSON, John M 4 1837 Yorkshire VIEW
CLARK, Ellen F 30 1811 Yorkshire VIEW
Piece: 1231 Book/Folio: 3/5 Page: 3 Registration District: Kingston upon Hull Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull Address: Cogan Street, Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull County: Yorkshire
Baptism
parents: Robert Johnson,? Elizabeth
name: John Thomas Johnson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 29 Dec 1836
baptism/christening place: HOLY TRINITY,KINGSTON UPON HULL,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Robert Johnson
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C10748-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0990828-30, 919483
and his sister
parents: Robert Johnson,? Elizabeth
name: Ellen Elizabeth Johnson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 25 Nov 1844
baptism/christening place: HOLY TRINITY,KINGSTON UPON HULL,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Robert Johnson
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C10748-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0990833-5
so it looks as though Robert died between 1844 and 1851.
Back to John Thomas
It looks as though Rosa is a widow in 1881
JOHNSON, Rose Head Widow F 44 1837 Seamstress
Patrington, Yorkshire VIEW
JOHNSON, Edward T Son Single M 16 1865 Plumber
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Robert W Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Arthur H Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Rose T Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
Piece: 3624 Folio: 6 Page: 5 Registration District: Liverpool Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Address: 50, Heath Street, Liverpool County: Lancashire
The census in 1881 was taken 3rd April so it's just possible that this is his death
Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
Johnson John Thomas 44 Liverpool 8b 90
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Not helping with John, but I think this is Rosa's family in 1851 - her sister Jane married in 1850:
Jane Hargrave
[Jane Tennison]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Daughter
Spouse's Name: John Hargrave
Father's Name: Edward Tennison
Mother's Name: Rosamond Tennison
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Patrington, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Patrington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 2364
Folio: 158
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Tennison 46
Rosamond Tennison 43
John Hargrave 27
Jane Hargrave 20
And in 1841 (Jane is a servant elsewhere):
Rosinan Tennison
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Patrington
Hundred: Holderness (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1223
Book: 13
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Tennison 30
Rosinan Tennison 30
Rosman Tennison 5
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Rosa in 1851:
Rosamond Tennison
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Lodger
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Patrington, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Patrington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 2364
Folio: 157
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Slide 47
Elizabeth Slide 43
Elizabeth Slide 8
Mary A Slide 6
Ann Ness 27
Rosamond Tennison 15
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My apologies for not getting back sooner, busy day! Thank you all for looking for me , some info I 'had from various sites but needed second opinions & now have quite a bit to go on.
Thanks again
Chris
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