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Abraham Carter

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MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 26 Nov 2012 00:19

Hello,

I am trying to find marriage for Abraham Carter b 1821 Sedgley Staffordshire I have not found him on any records until the 1871 census living in Bilston Street, Sedgley his wife is Nancy b1810 Sedgley They are both on the 1881 census but I cannot find anything for them before 1871

Regards

Mary

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Nov 2012 00:45

Have you checked out who married who from this list ?


Marriages Dec 1850
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Carter Abraham Birmingham 16 549
Holmes William Birmingham 16 549
Hope Robert Birmingham 16 549
Hughes Mary Birmingham 16 549
Manwaring Nancy Birmingham 16 549
Rogers Sarah Birmingham 16 549
Spencer Sarah Birmingham 16 549

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Nov 2012 00:46

??

Name: Abram Carter
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Feb 1821
Christening Place: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: John Carter
Mother's Name: Ann

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Nov 2012 00:49

So he was a publican in 1881

Abraham Carter 60
Nancy Carter 70
James Baker 47
Ellen Baker 36
Isiah Baker 9

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Nov 2012 00:50

Abraham CARTER
Birth 1821 in Sedgley, Staffordshire
Death 1882 in Staffordshire, England

Parents :
John CARTER
1776 – 1839
Ann BARBER
1779 –

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Nov 2012 00:50

1841 but need to check the image

Name: Abram Caster
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Sedgley
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 998
Book: 4
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Abram Caster 20

Class: HO107; Piece: 998; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Sedgley; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 5; Page: 3; Line: 11; GSU roll: 474626.


Does look like Caster on image - occupation of miner

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 26 Nov 2012 01:00

Yes he was a publican,
I will try the marriage Manwaring Nancy Birmingham 16 549 that is the only glimmer i have yet maybe they where living in a pub in the area at the time that would be why they married there??

Mary

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 26 Nov 2012 01:07

Not sure if this will help you to help me :-)

His parents John and Ann died in 1839 and 1840 so I cannot find him through his parents I think I have just found his death 1882 in Staffordshire age fits (61) I also found one for a Nancy in 1907 but age way out I'm not sure if they had any children

Mary

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 26 Nov 2012 01:11

It does look like Caster on the 1841

Mary

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 26 Nov 2012 03:32

I think i have found Abraham on the 1851 census his name is shortened to Abm he is living with the Baker's another branch of my tree so the Marriage Mike found for 1850 is not the one I'm after

Also I have checked on the www.resourcesforlife.com/library/names/feminine and it says Nancy is Originally a form of Ann any ideas ?? maybe I should be looking for Ann but then even with cert how will I sure it's the correct one

Mary

Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Nov 2012 07:40



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Abraham Carter
Probate Date: 20 Apr 1882
Death Date: 26 Jan 1882
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: Lichfield


late of Sedgley, Publican

Proved at Lichfield by John Baker of Deepfields, Sedgley, Licensed Victualler, nephew, one of the Executors

Personal estate - £90

Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Nov 2012 07:45



this is possibly the John Baker who was the Executor of Abraham's Will


1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 2870
Folio: 138
Page: 26
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Sedgley
Parish: Sedgley
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Darkhouse Lane, Sedgley
County: Staffordshire

BAKER, John Head Married M 50 1831 Inn Keeper
Deepfields, Staffordshire
BAKER, Sarah Wife Married F 47 1834 Inn Keepers Wife
Deepfields, Staffordshire
NICHOLS, Sarah Servant Single F 17 1864 Gen Serv Domestic
Deepfields, Shropshire

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 26 Nov 2012 17:45

there is an Abraham Carter living in Bilston St, Cinderhill Sedgely in the 1851 poll book.

can anyone with FMP look up by address please

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Nov 2012 18:03

Not seeing him there Ann ......

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 26 Nov 2012 20:55

ah well - - presumably the poll books did not always match in time

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 27 Nov 2012 01:50

Hello,

I did find him on FMP his on as Abm Carter living with the Bker family

they have the address as Parkhouse Lane, Sedgley, Wolverhampton Staffordshire

It should be Darkhouse lane which is Coseley, Sedgley

Mary :-D

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 27 Nov 2012 01:52

The will was interesting to read I never think to look for wills

Thank you

Mary :-D

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 2 Dec 2012 22:04

Hello,

I have received the death cert for Abraham and his wife Nancy was present at death but I cannot find her on the census after 1881 and cannot find a death for her, I still have not found their marriage.He was single on the1851 Census and Nancy appeared on the 1871 census I have not found them on 1861 I have found a marriage in Dudley Staffs for a Abraham Carter in 1866 but his wife is Jane Bagley I am now wondering if this is their marriage and she was known as Nancy?? I do have one on my tree who we always knew as Cissie but her actual name was Emma I have looked in deaths for Nancy and Jane but no luck
Abraham died in 1882 in Sedgley Staffs any help appreciated

Mary

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 Dec 2012 22:51


??


Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Carter Ann 80 Dudley 6c 45



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Ann Carter
Probate Date: 23 Feb 1891
Death Date: 18 Jun 1890
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: Lichfield


late of Sedgley, Widow
The Will was proved at Lichfield by James Baker of Bilston Street, Sedgley, Metallic Bedstead fitter, the sole Executor

Personal estate - £5


MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 2 Dec 2012 22:59

Hello Choccy

That fits perfect with what I have except Ann not Nancy I will see if I can find a marriage for Ann do you know if I send for her death cert will it say if she's widow of Abraham

Thank you

Mary