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Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 26 Nov 2012 11:24

I am trying to find parents of George Clarke born about 1818 Wortwell, Norfolk. I have found him on 1851 Census married to a Mary born 1819 but so far have not been able to get far enough back to find his parents. Any help would be appreciated.

Alan

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Nov 2012 11:30

have you tried Family Search site

Gins

Gins Report 26 Nov 2012 11:32

Are you sure he married Mary and not Amy?


Marriages Dec 1842 (>99%)
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CLARKE George Depwade 13 85
Grimmer Martha Depwade 13 85
Grimmer Thomas Depwade 13 85
HOWELL Amy Depwade 13 85



If this is him the certificate should have his fathers name

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Nov 2012 11:37

Is this them on the 1851??

Name: George Clark
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Clark
[Amy Clark]
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Faiths Newton, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Thorpe Market
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Erpingham
Sub-registration district: North Walsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1809
Folio: 126
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
George Clark 37
Mary Clark 34
George T Clark 9
Matthew Clark 8
Henry B Clark 5
Mary S Clark 4
Amy Clark 2
Frank Clark 3 Mo
Amy Clark 72 widow annuitant ____________ MUM ???
Elizabeth Brewer 21
Mary A Ellis 22
Mary Dix 12
Emma Chadwick 17
William Witwood 17
V
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1809; Folio: 126; Page: 5; GSU roll: 207461-207462.



going on the age of the eldest child they may have married after 1837 . have you looked for a marriage for them . the cert should name his father.

Adeline

Adeline Report 26 Nov 2012 11:38

Is this George in 1851 with wife Amy? This matches the couple in the marriage above:

Name: George Clarke
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amy Clarke
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Wortwell, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Alburgh
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Registration district: Depwade
Sub-registration district: Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 1821
Folio: 55
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
George Clarke 33
Amy Clarke 32
Mary Ann Clarke 8
John Clarke 6
Emma Clarke 1


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Nov 2012 11:42

The one Adeline posted looks more like the right George. :-D

Dea

Dea Report 26 Nov 2012 11:53

I was thinking that this was the 1851 George?? - It is the same as Adeline's one but wife shown as Mary on FMP. (It does seem to be Amy on the image)

CLARKE, George Head Married M 33 1818 Ag Lab
Wortwell, Norfolk
CLARKE, Mary Wife Married F 32 1819
Wokefield, Suffolk
CLARKE, Mary Ann Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
Alburgh, Norfolk
CLARKE, John Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Alburgh, Norfolk
CLARKE, Emma Daughter F 1 1850
Alburgh, Norfolk

Piece: 1821
Folio: 55
Page: 13
Registration District: Depwade
Civil Parish: Alburgh
Municipal Borough:
Address: Alburgh
County: Norfolk


Dea x

Adeline

Adeline Report 26 Nov 2012 11:55

Could this be the same George in 1861 with wife Mary?

I've had another look at the 1851 image and I can see why Ancestry thought it was Amy and not Mary

Name: George Clark
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Clark
Gender: Male
Where born: Harleston, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Starston
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Registration district: Depwade
Sub-registration district: Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 86
Piece: 1231
Folio: 122
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
George Clark 45
Mary Clark 44
George Clark 17
Thomas Clark 14
John Clark 12



Adeline

Adeline Report 26 Nov 2012 12:05

Another possibly more likely marriage:

Name: CLARKE, George
Registration district: Depwade
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1841
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: 13
Page no: 131


>>>>>>>>YOUELL, Mary
BALLARD, Harriet
BARBER, Mary Ann
WELTON, Sarah Ann
WHITE, Walter
ROXBY, Isaac

This certificate would give George's father's name.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Nov 2012 12:11

George Clarke
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Wortwell,? Norfolk
census: 1851 England


name: George Clarke
age: 33
gender: M
birthplace: Wortwell, Norfolk
relationship to head of household: Head
record type: Household

Adeline

Adeline Report 26 Nov 2012 12:18

Alan has sent me this message:

This is the one I have, 1851 Census on Genes but have tried other sites and not got very far. I have his wife as Mary and children are the same as you have found. Just wish I could find his parents but cant seem to get that far back.

Alan, just click on Add Reply just above your original message and you can respond on this thread .

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Nov 2012 12:40

Marriage

County Norfolk
Place Alburgh
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 25
MarriageDate 13 Nov 1842
GroomForename George
GroomSurname CLARKE
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode Alburgh
BrideForename Amy
BrideSurname HOW*
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Alburgh
GroomFatherForename Henry
GroomFatherSurname CLARKE
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename *rick
BrideFatherSurname HOW*
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Maria
WitnessOneSurname CLARKE
WitnessTwoForename Samuel
WitnessTwoSurname SMITH
Notes Bride And Groom Of Full Age; Both And Witness 1 Signed With Their Mark; Brides Surname Could Be Howell;
FileNumber 15848

(above from below link, can be handy, Norfolk)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Nov 2012 13:15

County Norfolk
Place Starston
Church St Margaret
RegisterNumber 380
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 12 Mar 1843
Forename Jane
Sex F
FatherForename George
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname CLARKE
MotherSurname YOUELL
Abode Redenhall
FatherOccupation Labourer
FileNumber 8289

(also on above link, plus others)

Chris :)

Dea

Dea Report 26 Nov 2012 13:45

I beleive the 1851 we have been looking at should certainly say 'AMY'.

This looks like their daughter Emma's christening?

Emma Clarke

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 30 Sep 1849 Alburgh,? Norfolk,? England
residence: Alburgh,? Norfolk,? England

parents: George Clarke,? Amy

name: Emma Clarke
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Sep 1849
baptism/christening place: Alburgh, Norfolk, England
father's name: George Clarke
mother's name: Amy
indexing project (batch) number: I07397-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1657158

SO, if that is the family Alan is following, then we should be looking for a marriage to 'Amy' which I think has already been posted above?

Dea x

Dea x

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 26 Nov 2012 13:46

So many people helping. There are so many George Clarkes in Norfolk a lot of them dont have the family which I've got. Genes Reunited 1851 Census gives George Clarke as Head born 1818 Wortwell, Norfolk, Ag. Labourer. Mary born 1819 Wokefield, Suffolk. Child Mary born 1843 Alburgh, Norfolk. John born 1845 Alburgh Norfolk and Emma born 1850 Alburgh, Norfolk.
I have tried looking up Mary's maiden name and come up with Barber, Youell, Barham. Did find in 1841 George living at Starston with a family named Youell and wondered if he had got together with a daughter, I believe there was a Mary but age seemed terribly wrong. Marriage date possibly 1841 Starston. I find this all quite confusing.

Alan

Dea

Dea Report 26 Nov 2012 13:55

This would be Amy's christening ?

If you look again at the 1851 image the name is certainly Amy and her place of birth to me looks like Homersfield, Suffolk?


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Amy Howell
Name: Amy Howell
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Jan 1821
Christening Place: Homersfield, Suffolk, England
Father's Name: Shadrach Howell
Mother's Name: Sarah

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 26 Nov 2012 14:09

If you are convinced that you have the correct family on the 1851 then I believe the wife was Amy, not Mary !!

How have you woorked your way back to them please?

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Nov 2012 14:12

Burials

County Norfolk
Place Alburgh
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 412
BurialDate 14 Aug 1855
Forename Amy
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname CLARKE
Age 34y

County Norfolk
Place Alburgh
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 395
BurialDate 17 Jun 1853
Forename George
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname CLARKE
Age 35y

Chris :)

(again from below link, free to use Alan, have a look at childrens Baptisms too)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Dea

Dea Report 26 Nov 2012 14:28

That's why I couldn't find them in 1851 !!!

Dea x

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 27 Nov 2012 11:17

Hi All, Thanks for all the info.
Chris if you are right about their burials they both died when Emma was about 3or 4.

Dea, you asked how I worked back to them well, here goes -
Frederick Clarke b1904 Starston, Norfolk and Maud Bloomfield 1912 Hartismere, Suffolk,( my parents), then Stephen Clarke b 1871 Wortwell, Norfolk and Annie Love b 1867 Woolwich, London, then John Clarke b 1849 Alburgh Norfolk and Pamela, maiden name possibly Gower, b 1850 Denton, Norfolk, then George Clarke b 1818 Wortwell, Norfolk and Mary b 1819 Wokefield, Suffolk.
The message you sent at 11.53 the details are exactly the same as I have.