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LUCK OF THE IRISH lol

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Jacky

Jacky Report 28 Nov 2012 06:38

morning catherine
thank you so much for all the infomation going to take my grandson to school & come back & have a proper look at it all & cross referance it all its just awaiting the arrival of the marriage cert now
once again thanks so much for all your help
:-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Nov 2012 23:21

Just to add to info already found:-

Apart from the births Spokes/Ewing that I posted on previous page and the birth that E1916 found:-
Name: Florence Eileen Spokes
Registration district: Inishowen
BIRTHS registration quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1924

.............I have also come across the following which may also be another sibling:-

name: Charles Walter Spokes
registration district: Inishowen
event type: BIRTHS
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1927
estimated birth year:
age (at death):
mother's maiden name:
film number: 101230
volume number: 2
page number: 51
digital folder number: 4195645
image number: 00380
............unfortunately no mmn given but coudl very well a brother.

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Nov 2012 22:42

How sure is your source that George Spokes did indeed marry Evelyn Ewing?

If that is the case then the George Spokes in the newspaper report will not be your man, as his wife was noted as being Mary :-(

I would still be very interested to know what Raymond gives as his father's name and occupation on his marriage certificate!

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Nov 2012 22:32

Glad to hear that Owen is indeed the father of Catherine :-)

There are also these two births registered with mmn McCabe:-

Helen J Mahon Oct-Nov-Dec 1936 Dublin South

John P Mahon Jul-Aug-Sep 1938 Dublin South

..............although they are not in the same area it could be that the family moved away from Mohill for a while, which could explain the time difference between the birth of Annie in 1935 (Mohill) and Catherine in 1942 (Mohill)

To be absolutely sure of mother's name, you would need to buy a copy of the birth certificate of Catherine.

Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 21:06

thank you
will check this one out in more detail if i can once again thanks for the point in the right direction :-)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Nov 2012 20:58

Jacky...Catherine has supplied probable marriage of Owen Mahon (1934) see thread from yesterday 16.34.
Mohill is in the Co.Leitrim...not the Co Donegal.


Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 20:39

omg sorry Eringobragh1916
yes owen mahon its me making mistakes in my giddyness lol

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Nov 2012 20:37

Jacky...Do you mean Owen Mahon...not Owen Spokes...?

Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 20:29

good evening
after makeing a lot of phone calls i have been give this infomation without me propmpting any name i ahve been told that evelyn ewing married george spokes

and


owen mahon
was indeeed catherine,s father but no concreate name for her mother

i have looked for the above marriages but can.t find one but one has been found for owen spokes how do i confirm that the owen spokes marriage is right

many thanks in advance for time & help given
jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 15:57

hi catherine
i will indeed do that & hopefully will beable to crack this one
once again thank you
jacky

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Nov 2012 14:22

Hi Jacky,
Once you get the certificate, come back to this thread and post all the information you find on it onto here so that we can see if any of the info found above is correct, or not.
Regards
Catherine

Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 09:59

hi again
forgot too say i will send for the marriage cert for raymond & catherine today so hopefully this will confirm some of the infomation that you have given so till that arrives think were stuck
once again thank you
jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 09:55

morning
thank you so much catherine & eringbragh 1916 for all your help & time given have read the pm & thought i,d add a little more i found out last nite


thank you so much for the infomation you sent via pm i think there could be a connection somewhere as raymond spokes (1942) had a sister called evelyn the george spokes wedding you found in inishowen in 1946 we belive is the brother of raymond,s father who is (???) its so frustrateing these are not my line of family its my sisters hubby too be family i will ask him today if he can remember anything else however small that may help we just presumed that cos raymond & his siblings were born in inishowen there parents marriage took place there once again thank you so much for all your time & help
jacky

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 22:10

Well considering there were next to no "Spokes" on the Ireland of Ireland (1911) a couple came up for 'Derry but thats about it....
I also found something that may be of value but sent it by PM...will send it to you....

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 21:37

We just need Jacky to come back now to see if she can confirm any of what we have found!
Maybe she already has the marriage certificate?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 21:16

Catherine...I will concur with your findings...havent got the where with all to trawl through all the Inishowen Marriages for 1946 .Should have recognised Francis/Frances...concentation has gone outthe window tonight...!

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 20:31

Eringobragh1916,

These couples are all on the same page, but if you take another look, Francis Beirne is not female but male so cannot be the spouse of George Harold Spokes?
I believe that Francis Beirne married Kathleen Lynch as there are four children born with name Beirne and mmn Lynch born between 1946 and 1951 in Inishowen.

Francis Beirne Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Sarah Cassidy Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
James Doherty Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Rosina Doherty Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Peter Harte Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Kathleen Lynch Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Mary McLoughlin Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
George Harold Spokes Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
.........................................................................................................

Peter Harte looks to have married Rosina Doherty
2 children born in 1947 and 1950 with the name Harte and mmn Doherty in Inishowen.
.................................................................................................

James Doherty looks to have married Sarah Cassidy
A possible 18 children born between 1946 and 1960 with name Doherty and mmn Cassidy in Inishowen.
................................................................................................

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Mary McLoughlin
Name: Mary McLoughlin
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Inishowen
Volume: 2
Page: 54 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101580

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 19:07

Catherine I will check that out again.....!

name: George Harold Spokes registration district: Inishowen event type: MARRIAGES registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1946
volume number: 2
page number: 54
digital folder number: 4200212

name: Francis Beirne registration district: Inishowen event type:
MARRIAGES registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1946
volume number: 2
page number: 54
digital folder number: 4200212

????

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 18:59

If in fact the GHS b Sculcoates is correct then he was the son of John William Spokes and Mary Ellen Smith they married 1895 Reg Dec. Hull...you can find details of his parents etc on Free BMD..Mary E plus family are on 1901/1911 Census. John Wm is not present on either although he must still be around as Mary went on to have a number of children up to 1911....
John Wm was the son of Wm and Mary and b Kirk Alla Yorkshire 1873.

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 18:47

I saw that marriage too:-

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about George Harold Spokes
Name: George Harold Spokes
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Inishowen
Volume: 2
Page: 54 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101580

...........................but I believe he married:- Mary McLoughlin

............as there are seven children born to this couple from 1947 to 1957 (all Mother's Surname: McLaughlin)