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LUCK OF THE IRISH lol

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Jacky

Jacky Report 26 Nov 2012 15:28

afternoon everyone
i,m wondereing if someone can help me find marriages & births in ireland or point me in the right direction i,v ben trying to find them myself but think i,m not looking in the right place

i.m trying too find the parents of raymond leslie spokes he was born 1942 in inishowen ireland we beliove his mm was ewing

and also the parants of his wife
catherine mahon born 1942 mohill ireland mmn was McCabe

i have tried too find a marriage for both set of perants

spokes to a ewing
&
mahon to a McCabe


raymond & catherine were married in leeds west yorkshire in 1964

both have sadly passed away now

thank you in advance for anytime or help or advice given
i will have too leave to go to work in about 20 mins but will check back when i get home for any replies once again thank you

Helen

Helen Report 26 Nov 2012 15:44

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 about Raymond L Spokes
Name: Raymond L Spokes
Mother's Surname: Ewing
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1942
Registration district: Inishowen
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 51
FHL Film Number: 101235

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 15:44

The marriage certificate of Raymond and Catherine will give you their father's name which may help find, or confirm any findings.

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 15:49

Siblings:-

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 about Evelyn R Spokes
Name: Evelyn R Spokes
Mother's Surname: Ewing
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1931
Registration district: Inishowen
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 51
FHL Film Number: 101231

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 about Lilian E Spokes
Name: Lilian E Spokes
Mother's Surname: Ewing
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration district: Inishowen
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 47
FHL Film Number: 101232

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 about Freda M Spokes
Name: Freda M Spokes
Mother's Surname: Ewing
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Inishowen
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 45
FHL Film Number: 101234

............so marriage for parents should be around 1930?

Do you have any idea if he had any other siblings?

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 16:02

Maybe?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about George H Spokes
Name: George H Spokes
Spouse Surname: Ewing
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1923
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 372
Find Spouse: Florence Ewing

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 16:15

Maybe relevant to above marriage :-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about George Harold Spokes
Name: George Harold Spokes
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1900
Registration district: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 167

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about George Harold Spokes
Name: George Harold Spokes
Birth Date: abt 1901
Age: 29
Port of Departure: Kingston, Jamaica
Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1930
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Corrales
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Corrales' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Elder & Fyffes Line
Official Number: 161902
This person is noted as:- Royal Marines
UK address:- Royal Marines Barracks, East ney , Portsmouth

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about George Harold Spokes
Name: George Harold Spokes
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1900
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1983
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 1452
.........................................

...............may be worth keeping on file, just in case, or may help to eliminate him from your research.

However, if the marriage is correct then it could be that he married in England but spent some time in Ireland with his regiment.

As I said earlier the marriage cert. of Raymond and Catherine will give you father's name and occupation which will help confirm if this is his father, or not.

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 16:35

Catherine also had siblings (all have mmn McCabe):-

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958

Birth, Baptism & Christening

NAME: Annie B Mahon
MOTHER: McCabe
BIRTH: Jun 1935 - Mohill

Annie B Mahon Apr-May-Jun 1935 Mohill

Brigid R Mahon Jul-Aug-Sep 1943 Mohill

Sheila B Mahon Jul-Aug-Sep 1945 Mohill

............which helps narrow down a marriage for parents.

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 16:43

Possible?

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Owen Mahon
Name: Owen Mahon
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1933
Registration district: Mohill
Volume: 3
Page: 108 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101577

also on same page:-

Mary Kate Gallogly Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill
Brigid J Gilfillan Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill
Mary Kate Giloghy Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill
Mary Kate Harahan Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill
Peter Maguire Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill
xxxxxxx Owen Mahon Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx Catherine McCabe Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill xxxxxxx
Peter McGuire Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill
Michael O'Rourke Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Mohill

.....................here again the marriage cert. will confirm, or not, if this one is correct. If Catherine's father is noted as being Owen, then this could very well be the correct one, if not, then we will have to look again.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 17:35

Wonder if George Harold Spokes married twice...?

A marriage of a GHS to a Francis Beirne was reg Inishowen Oct-Dec quarter 1946.


EDIT......Catherine has corrected the above marriage as incorrect...see her message below...Thank You Catherine.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 17:45

????

Name: Florence Eileen Spokes
Registration district: Inishowen
BIRTHS registration quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1924
volume number: 2 page number: 50 digital folder number: 4194699

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 18:47

I saw that marriage too:-

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about George Harold Spokes
Name: George Harold Spokes
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Inishowen
Volume: 2
Page: 54 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101580

...........................but I believe he married:- Mary McLoughlin

............as there are seven children born to this couple from 1947 to 1957 (all Mother's Surname: McLaughlin)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 18:59

If in fact the GHS b Sculcoates is correct then he was the son of John William Spokes and Mary Ellen Smith they married 1895 Reg Dec. Hull...you can find details of his parents etc on Free BMD..Mary E plus family are on 1901/1911 Census. John Wm is not present on either although he must still be around as Mary went on to have a number of children up to 1911....
John Wm was the son of Wm and Mary and b Kirk Alla Yorkshire 1873.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 19:07

Catherine I will check that out again.....!

name: George Harold Spokes registration district: Inishowen event type: MARRIAGES registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1946
volume number: 2
page number: 54
digital folder number: 4200212

name: Francis Beirne registration district: Inishowen event type:
MARRIAGES registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1946
volume number: 2
page number: 54
digital folder number: 4200212

????

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 20:31

Eringobragh1916,

These couples are all on the same page, but if you take another look, Francis Beirne is not female but male so cannot be the spouse of George Harold Spokes?
I believe that Francis Beirne married Kathleen Lynch as there are four children born with name Beirne and mmn Lynch born between 1946 and 1951 in Inishowen.

Francis Beirne Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Sarah Cassidy Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
James Doherty Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Rosina Doherty Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Peter Harte Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Kathleen Lynch Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
Mary McLoughlin Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
George Harold Spokes Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Inishowen
.........................................................................................................

Peter Harte looks to have married Rosina Doherty
2 children born in 1947 and 1950 with the name Harte and mmn Doherty in Inishowen.
.................................................................................................

James Doherty looks to have married Sarah Cassidy
A possible 18 children born between 1946 and 1960 with name Doherty and mmn Cassidy in Inishowen.
................................................................................................

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Mary McLoughlin
Name: Mary McLoughlin
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Inishowen
Volume: 2
Page: 54 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101580

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 21:16

Catherine...I will concur with your findings...havent got the where with all to trawl through all the Inishowen Marriages for 1946 .Should have recognised Francis/Frances...concentation has gone outthe window tonight...!

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2012 21:37

We just need Jacky to come back now to see if she can confirm any of what we have found!
Maybe she already has the marriage certificate?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2012 22:10

Well considering there were next to no "Spokes" on the Ireland of Ireland (1911) a couple came up for 'Derry but thats about it....
I also found something that may be of value but sent it by PM...will send it to you....

Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 09:55

morning
thank you so much catherine & eringbragh 1916 for all your help & time given have read the pm & thought i,d add a little more i found out last nite


thank you so much for the infomation you sent via pm i think there could be a connection somewhere as raymond spokes (1942) had a sister called evelyn the george spokes wedding you found in inishowen in 1946 we belive is the brother of raymond,s father who is (???) its so frustrateing these are not my line of family its my sisters hubby too be family i will ask him today if he can remember anything else however small that may help we just presumed that cos raymond & his siblings were born in inishowen there parents marriage took place there once again thank you so much for all your time & help
jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 27 Nov 2012 09:59

hi again
forgot too say i will send for the marriage cert for raymond & catherine today so hopefully this will confirm some of the infomation that you have given so till that arrives think were stuck
once again thank you
jacky

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Nov 2012 14:22

Hi Jacky,
Once you get the certificate, come back to this thread and post all the information you find on it onto here so that we can see if any of the info found above is correct, or not.
Regards
Catherine