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John Yates with family in 1851 please

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Frances

Frances Report 27 Nov 2012 14:09

In 1841 I have found members of my Yates family - to match Family Search

From the G.R. single line census
1841
Yates John 1835 Lancashire Barton, Worsley & Flixton, Barton Upon Irwell
Yates Mary 1831 Lancashire Barton, Worsley & Flixton, Barton Upon Irwell
Yates John 1806 Lancashire Barton, Worsley & Flixton, Barton Upon Irwell


and in 1851 there is
1851
Yates John 1835 Eccles Barton-Upon-Irwell, Barton Upon Irwell

and his father could be :-
Yates John 1803 Cadishead Barton-Upon-Irwell, Barton Upon Irwell

Does the 1851 census show them together please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Potty

Potty Report 27 Nov 2012 14:11

This one?

1851 England Census
about John Yates
Name: John Yates
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Yates
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Eccles, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Barton upon Irwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell
Sub-registration district: Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1l
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 2218
Folio: 334
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
John Yates 50
Mary Yates 16
John Yates 16
Martha Yates 7
James Bennett 45

Edit: John snr's POB given as Cheshire, Carrington

Potty

Potty Report 27 Nov 2012 14:18

Same family in 1841:

1841 England Census
about John Yates
Name: John Yates
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Eccles
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Barton upon Irwell and Worsley
Sub-registration district: Barton on Irwell
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 542
Book: 6
Folio: 36
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
John Yates 35
Ann Yates 35
Ann Yates 15
John Yates 6
Mary Yates 6

Frances

Frances Report 27 Nov 2012 14:26

Thank you Potty, I wonder why they wouldn't show up for me like that! John and Mary shared the same christening date in family search and I considered them being twins but then they didn't have the same date in 1841 - does G.R mess the census up just to confuse me?
Ann aged 15 may be enough to find the parents marriage?

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Nov 2012 17:32

This looks to be the Mary Yates born 1831 in the 1841 census:-

1841 England Census about Mary Yates
Name: Mary Yates
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Eccles
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Barton upon Irwell and Worsley
Sub-registration district: Barton on Irwell
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 542
Book: 3
Folio: 8
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Adam Yates 35
Alice Yates 35
Mary Yates 10
Martha Yates 10
William Yates 5
Adam Yates 5
Emma Yates 1

...................so a different family!

Your Mary is shown as being with the family in 1841 aged 6yrs, as is John.