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FionaB

FionaB Report 27 Nov 2012 16:14

Anyone out there who is a Lyas or married a Lyas would you have answers to the following.

Ernest Douglas Lyas b 1902 d 1985 Stowmarket married Ivy Maud Chandler b 1905 d 1989 Stowmarket. Fact.

My question is did Ernest have siblings Robert, Emma and Eliza and was their father Henry Lyas born 1860 and did he marry Hannah but which Hannah.

I only remember Ernie and Ivy (nana and grandad) their son Douglas Ernest (known as Ernie) and his sister Brenda who married Peter Beer and had a son out in Cyprus called Craig. I have no recollection of Grandads brother and sisters.

Any help would be appreciated as looking on BDM's, Census etc I need to know the answers as fact.

Thank you in advance for any time and help

Fiona :-D

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Nov 2012 16:18

Here he is 1911:

1911 England Census
Name: Ernest Lyas
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stowmarket, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Stowmarket
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address: 78 Bury Street, Stowmarket
Occupation: At School
Registration district: Stow
Registration District Number: 209
Sub-registration district: Stowmarket

Henry Lyas 51 Birth Place: Onehouse, Suffolk, England Gun Cotton Worker
Hannah Lyas 51
Robert Lyas 16
Emma Lyas 12
Ernest Lyas 6
Eliza Lyas 9

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Nov 2012 16:21


1901 England Census

Name: Henry Tyas
[Henry Lyas]
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Tyas
Gender: Male
Where born: Onehouse, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Stowmarket
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Peter
Town: Stowmarket
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Stow
Sub-registration district: Stowmarket

Henry Tyas 41
Annie Tyas 41
Henry J Tyas 17
George Tyas 12
Horace Tyas 10
Robt Tyas 5
Ann Tyas 2

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Nov 2012 16:24

?

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
Clarke George Stow, S. 4a 957
Lyas Harry James Stow, S. 4a 957
ROZIER Catherine Eliza Stow,S. 4a 957
WOODS Hannah Stow,S. 4a 957

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 16:28

Have you tried doing some research yourself on freebmd?

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 16:30

No reference to DOUGLAS in the man's death registration

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Ernest Lyas
Name: Ernest Lyas
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1902
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10
Page: 2603

FionaB

FionaB Report 27 Nov 2012 16:30

Reggie - Sorry and Thank you for your time but I did say I had been looking on BDM's Census etc and needed to know the info I had was fact .

Brummiejan - Thank you and I did see that as well.

Both of you - I was hoping for a Lyas to 'pop up' as grandad supposedly had one brother Robert who carried on the line.

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Nov 2012 16:31

Note lodger William Woods - so above marriage might be correct. No relationship given however:


1891 England Census about Harry Lyas
Name: Harry Lyas
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Lyas
Gender: Male
Where born: Onehouse, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Stowmarket
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter & St Mary
Town: Stowmarket
County/Island: Suffolk

Registration district: Stow

Harry Lyas 31
Hannah Lyas 31
Harry J Lyas 7
William Lyas 5
Ethel M Lyas 4
George Lyas 2
Henry Lyas 2/12
William Woods 66

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 16:31

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Ernest Lyas
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
Registration district: Stow
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 965

Where did you get the idea that he had a second forename?

Barry

Barry Report 27 Nov 2012 16:34

This Ancestry tree may be of help

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/10086373/person/6146817664

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 16:35

The ONLY way to be sure that anything is a fact is to spend money on certs

GR members can only post info found on line...........we can't say whether it is accurate........or not.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Nov 2012 16:35

No middle name on marriage either!

Marriages Sep 1927 (>99%)
Chandler Ivy M Lyas Ipswich 4a 2749
Lyas Ernest Chandler Ipswich 4a 2749

Jan

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 16:37

Births Sep 1905 (>99%)
Lyas Eliza Stow, S. 4a 963

The ages for Ernest and Eliza on 1911 census have been transposed

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Nov 2012 16:37

Name: Ernest Lyas
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1902
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10
Page: 2603

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 16:38

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
Lyas Robert Stow, S. 4a 789


To find if he married.......................use freebmd

EDIT

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Name: Robert Lyas
Death Date: 8 Aug 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Stowmarket
Rank: Private
Regiment: Suffolk Regiment
Battalion: 2nd Battalion
Number: 43330
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 942, Suffolk Cyclists.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Nov 2012 16:39

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lyas&GSfn=ernest&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=46961372&df=all&

Chris :)

Burial (find My Past)

First name(s): Ethel May
Last name: LYAS
Date of burial 19 Mar 1897
Age at death: 9
Calculated year of birth: 1888
Place of burial Stowmarket
Dedication: Cemetery
County: Suffolk
Stowmarket Cemetery:
Denomination: Cemetery
Coverage 1855 - 1903
Data provider: Suffolk Family History Society

First name(s): Ernest Robert (possibly related)
Last name: LYAS
Date of burial 11 Jul 1893
Age at death: 10 Weeks
Calculated year of birth: 1893
Place of burial Stowmarket
Dedication: Cemetery
County: Suffolk

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 16:42

If you hope for links on this site........use the 'search all trees' facility

FionaB

FionaB Report 27 Nov 2012 16:58

Thanks once again everyone

Barry - had a look at the tree and will be making contact thank you.

Reggie - Ernest Douglas was grandfather and Douglas Ernest was son but always known as Ernie. I am trying to get my little brother to go through boxes of documents and paperwork that he has to see if ha can find any certificates and such like.

Brummiejan - Ernest Douglas and Ivy Maud are definite names as we had them put on gravestones.

Chris Ho - thanks for info and probably buried in same cemetery as nana and grandad and only managed to get half done when last 'graveyard hopping'.

Fiona
:-)

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Nov 2012 17:00

You may have put 'Douglas' on the gravestone, but the name does not appear on any OFFICIAL online records about the man.

Any comment on the info about ROBERT?

FionaB

FionaB Report 27 Nov 2012 17:11

Hi Reggie

I will have to look into Robert more deeply thank you.

btw it was always an in family joke that Grandad was vain enough to name his son the opposite way round to his own hence Ernest Douglas and Douglas Ernest. Brenda (sister of Douglas Ernest) was always relieved that she was not named Maud Ivy. ha ha

Once again thanks for your time and effort

Fiona :-D