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can you help i am looking for recards of alexander maxwell age 15 and robert maxwell age 10 they were in lostock junction certified industrial school for boys in bolton i know they were there in 1901 i like to know why they were there cannot fine any records of the school hope some one can help yours colin

1901 census for reference -

Person: MAXWELL, Alexander

Institution: Bolton And County Of Lancaster Certified Industrial School, Lostock Junction Deane Bolton

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
MAXWELL, Alexander Inmate M 15 1886 Kitchen Boy Domestic Newark, Nottinghamshire

MAXWELL, Robert Inmate M 10 1891 School Boy Newark, Nottinghamshire

Piece: 3604
Folio: 114
Page: 6
Registration District: Bolton
Civil Parish: Bolton
Municipal Borough:
Address: Bolton, Lostock Junction
County: Lancashire

Have you found their parents in 1901? Often children were in an Industrial School through no fault of their own making.

1891

Name: Maude Maxwell
[Alexander Maxwell]
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Maxwell
Mother's Name: Isabella Maxwell
Where born: Newark, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Newark
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: Newark
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2714
Folio: 62
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Maxwell 37 House Painter, b. Scotland
Isabella Maxwell 31
Margaret Maxwell 10 b. Scotland
Catherine Maxwell 8 b. Scotland
Mary Maxwell 7
Maude Maxwell 5
Robert Maxwell 4

So Mum had died?

Deaths Mar 1897 Maxwell Isabella Morrison 37 Newark 7b 296

1911

Name: Robert Maxwell
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 20 New Yard Nottingham
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Paitner (Decorator)
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 20593
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Maxwell 52

County Nottinghamshire
Place Newark
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 13 Jun 1886
Forename Alexander McLeod
Sex -
FatherForename Robert
MotherForename Isabella
FatherSurname MAXWELL
MotherSurname
Abode St Leonard's Ct
FatherOccupation Painter
Notes
FileNumber 14774

FMP version of the 1891
1891 census transcription details for: 16, St Leonards Court, Newark Upon Trent, Newark

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2714
Folio: 62
Page: 7
Reg. District: Newark
Sub District: Newark
Parish: Newark upon Trent
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys
City/Municipal Borough: Newark
Address: 16, St Leonards Court, Newark Upon Trent, Newark
County: Nottinghamshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MANWELL, Robert Head Married M 37 1854 House Painter Scotland
MANWELL, Isabella Wife Married F 31 1860 Newark, Northumberland
MANWELL, Margaret Daughter Single F 10 1881 Scholar Scotland
MANWELL, Catherine Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Scotland
MANWELL, Mary Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Newark, Nottinghamshire
MANWELL, Alexander Son M 5 1886 Newark, Nottinghamshire
MANWELL, Robert Son M 0 (11M) 1891 Newark, Nottinghamshire

Correction for surname and Isabella's place of birth (Newcastle on original) reported

Sister Mary in 1901

Name: Mary Maxwell
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Newark on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Beeston
Ecclesiastical parish: Beeston St John the Baptist
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Beeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 3153
Folio: 135
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander McLeod 64
Margaret McLeod 59
Alexandrina F McLeod 23
Thomas McLeod 17
Mary Maxwell 16



Births Mar 1860 McLEOD Isabella Morrison Newcastle T 10b 49

County Nottinghamshire
Place Newark
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jun 1890
Forename Robert
Sex -
FatherForename Robert
MotherForename Isabella
FatherSurname MAXWELL
MotherSurname
Abode Wheatsheaf Yd
FatherOccupation Painter
Notes
FileNumber 14774

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Births Jun 1892 Maxwell Hubert Morrison Newark 7b 448

Deaths Sep 1895 Maxwell Hubert 3 Newark 7b 255


Births Mar 1894 Maxwell Luther Newark 7b 445




Luther and his father in 1901

Name: Luther Maxwell
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/2
Registration district: Camlachie
Civil parish: Glasgow Camlachie
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 47 E John St
ED: 17
Household schedule number: 126
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_268
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ferguson 46
Henry Ferguson 75
John White 14
John Wright 60
James Jamieson 47
Robert Maxwell 47
Luther Maxwell 5
Bernard Lynch 4
Joseph Mccartney 18

Luther in 1911

Name: Luther Marewell
[Luther Maxwell]
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Beeston
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Alpine Cotts, William St, Beeston
Occupation: Presser, Telephone
Registration district: Basford
Registration District Number: 429
Sub-registration district: Beeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 20432
Household Members: Name Age
William B Turgoose 25
Mary Turgoose 26
Winnie Turgoose 5
Teddy Turgoose 2
William Turgoose 1
Luther Marewell 18

Marriages Jun 1905
MAXWELL Mary Watt Basford 7b 229
TURGOOSE William Birkett Basford 7b 229

thanks to all off you for your help but still dont know why they were there i e-mail bolton and nottingham but no records there must be some some were that knows were the record are yours colin thank you

Colin, it looks like the boys were in the Industrial School because their mother had died. It was not uncommon for a widower to find it difficult to look after his children and be able to work. In many cases the children were looked after by family members but this was not always possible. It looks like Isabella's parents took her daughter Mary in but perhaps they were unable to look after the boys too. In 1901 father Robert was in Glasgow with his youngest son, Luther.


You could check if the poor relief records for the area have survived and that may give you a clue to the family circumstances.

EDIT


Have a look here

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/28861178/Nottinghamshire-Archives---Poor-Law-Records

thanks i know in 1901 scotland he got it ill have a look in nottingham thanks alot
colin