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Passenger index please 1911 London-Fremantle

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۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 30 Nov 2012 06:26

Hi! Can sks please look at the listing for passengers by the name of HAIGH travelling in 1911 from London to Fremantle, Western Australia. (With any luck, after the 1911 Census!)

Raynor, Arthur, William and 2 females shown on FMP. Trying to establish if these females were wife Annice/Anice and ?daughter Phyllis.

It appears children of Annice & Raynor (who married in Halifax, Yorkshire in 1899) may have been raised by her brother Albert WILSON and his wife Ethel SHEPHERD (or vice versa), but I have no idea why this would be as Raynor lived until 1947 (Albert died in 1933!) and Annice lived til 1960. It is very confusing.

Phyllis Rayonette married into my McMeekin lot (as WILSON). She called Albert her father (with uncle in brackets) in his 'in memoriam' notices and referred to Raynor as her 'adopted father' in his! :-S

Phyllis (known as Ray) died in 1993 in Perth, Western Australia.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Nov 2012 08:13


Name: Raynor HAIGH
Date of departure: 29 September 1911
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Fremantle, Australia
Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Plumber
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 32
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mrs HAIGH Page 5 of 32
Arthur HAIGH Page 5 of 32
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ORVIETO
129628
W S Shelford
Orient
Australia
14466
7421
1076

(under Arthur, a Phyllis Wilson)

Chris :)

1901
WILSON, Arthur F Head Married M 43 1858 Dyer's Warehouseman
Ovenden, Yorkshire
WILSON, Sarah Wife Married F 43 1858 Shopwoman Grocer
Ovenden, Yorkshire
WILSON, Albert Son Single M 17 1884 Apprentice Iron Moulder
Ovenden, Yorkshire
HAIGH, Annice Daughter Married F 19 1882
Ovenden, Yorkshire
HAIGH, Raynor Son-In-Law Married M 22 1879 Tram Conductor
Halifax, Yorkshire
HAIGH, Arthur Wm Grand Son Single M 0 (4 MOS) 1901
Ovenden, Yorkshire
Piece: 4136
Folio: 65
Page: 14
Registration District: Halifax
Civil Parish: Halifax
Municipal Borough:
Address: 312, Ovenden Road, Halifax
County: Yorkshire (West riding)


1911
HAIGH, Rayner Head Married M 32 1879 Carter (Carting Agents) Halifax Yorks
HAIGH, Annice Wife Married 11 years F 29 1882 Halifax Yorks
HAIGH, Auther Son Single M 10 1901 Halifax Yorks
CLAYTON, Thomas Eric Boarder M 17 1894 Labourer Halifax Yorks
RG number: RG14
Piece: 26519
Reference: RG14PN26519 RG78PN1529 RD496 SD6 ED3 SN103
Registration District: Halifax
Sub District: Halifax North
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Halifax
Address: 4 Stoney Lane Ovenden Halifax
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
(says 1 child born, 1 living)


1891
SMITH, George Head Married M 44 1847 Farmer
Ovenden, Yorkshire
SMITH, Lucy Wife Married F 54 1837 Woolen Weaver
Ovenden, Yorkshir
SMITH, Mary E Daughter Single F 21 1870 Woolen Weaver
Ovenden, Yorkshire
HAIGH, Raynor Adopted Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar
Ovenden, Yorkshire
Piece: 3603
Folio: 42
Page: 3
Registration District: Halifax
Civil Parish: Ovenden
Municipal Borough: Halifax
Address: 21, Ramsden Street, Ovenden, Halifax
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)


1881
SMITH, George Head Married M 34 1847 Farmer
Ovenden HX, Yorkshire
SMITH, Lucy Wife Married F 43 1838
Ovenden HX, Yorkshire
HAIGH, Raynor Adopted Son Single M 2 1879
Ovenden HX, Yorkshire
SMITH, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 11 1870 Worsted Spinner
Ovenden HX, Yorkshire
NICHOLL, Betty Domestic Single F 65 1816
Ovenden HX, Yorkshire
Piece: 4419
Folio: 42
Page: 3
Registration District: Halifax
Civil Parish: Ovenden
Municipal Borough:
Address: Ramsden Street, Ovenden
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 30 Nov 2012 08:50

Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser, Chris!

Thanks for this...so she travelled as Wilson...well. Can you please see if you can spot Annice's brother Albert in 1911 Census? (he is with Annice & Raynor, and his parents, in 1901). Maybe he IS Phyllis' father after all...

OR - bit trickier - Albert's travel to Australia (he married in WA in 1915). Did he also travel with the Haighs?

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 30 Nov 2012 09:08

FYI

The West Australian, Thursday 28 September 1933
WILSON.-On September 27, 1933, at his, residence, 12 Byron-street, Leederville, Albert Wilson, dearly beloved husband of Ethel Wilson, fond father of Phylis, Annice, Alberta, George and Arthur and stepfather of Emily, aged 49 years.


(I can see Annice & Alberta born in WA but no idea who Emily is!)


The West Australian, Wednesday 5 February 1947
HAIGH.-On February 3, 1947, at the Royal Perth Hospital, Raynor, the beloved husband of Annice Haigh, loved father of Arthur, adopted Dad of Ray (Mrs. McMeekin) and Audrey (Mrs. Smith), father-in-law of Maud, Bill and Charles, loving granddad of Zena and Gilbert Stagg. U.S.A., Kerry Smith and Billie McMeekin. Privately Cremated in the Karrakatta Crematorium on Tuesday afternoon, February 4, 1947. Arthur J. Purslowe and Co.
Even so, Father, for it seemeth good in Thy sight.

Also no idea who Audrey is (she married Chas SMITH as HAIGH in WA in 1945)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Nov 2012 09:08

1911
WILSON, Arthur F Head Married M 52 1859 Chip And Fish Business Ovenden Halifax
WILSON, Sarah A Wife Married30 years F 53 1858 Ovenden Halifax
WILSON, Albert Son Single M 27 1884 Hanger On Under Ground Ovenden Halifax
RG number: RG14
Piece: 26530
Reference: RG14PN26530 RG78PN1529 RD496 SD6 ED14 SN127
Registration District: Halifax
Sub District: Halifax North
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Halifax
Address: 3 Sladdin St Boothtown Halifax
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Chris :)

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 30 Nov 2012 09:11

"hanger on" - oh dear! :-D

I do like that his dad went from warehouseman to fish & chippie! :-)

And Raynor from tram conductor to plumber (though I have heard stories of men putting down trades to makes themselves more appealing as new migrants!)

Hm still single...I estimate Phyllis would have been born c1911. I thought she must be the Phyllis HAIGH born in Halifax in 1910 but now I am really confused!

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 30 Nov 2012 09:21

Albert & Annice's mother Sarah Ann also came to WA, where she died in 1926 (name listed in other notices):


The West Australian, Wednesday 31 October 1934
WILSON. — To the memory of my dear Grannie called Home, October 31,1926; also my Father (Uncle), Albert Wilson, called Home, September 27, 1933.
Not just today, but every day, I remember. Inserted by Phyllis Rayonette.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Nov 2012 09:24

Lol, does seem muddlin'...

(will have a look round later, must get out of chair now!, could be something more on West Yorkshire Collection, Ancestry)...

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Arthur William Haigh
Parish: Ovenden, St George
Baptism Date: 13 Feb 1910
Father's Name: Raymon Haigh (Raynor)
Mother's Name: Annice Haigh
(on image presume as Godparents, Arthur Foulds Wilson, Sarah Ann Wilson)

Chris :)

edits (wonder if Aus. arrival of 'Orvieto', might give age of Phyllis)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Nov 2012 09:53

Name: Mr A WILSON
Date of departure: 29 September 1911
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Fremantle, Australia
Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Labourer
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 32
Mrs WILSON Page 5 of 32
Miss A E WILSON Page 24 of 32
Frederick WILSON Page 18 of 32
John WILSON Page 5 of 32
Lena WILSON Page 5 of 32
Margaret WILSON Page 5 of 32
Phyllis WILSON Page 5 of 32
Miss W WILSON Page 24 of 32
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ORVIETO
129628
W S Shelford
Orient
Australia
14466
7421
1076
(same Voyage, different page!, Phyllis is with Haighs, John and other Wilsons further down, if related)

Chris :)

(will look in later!)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Nov 2012 13:50

Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------
HAIGH Phyllis Halifax 9a 390


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Phyllis Haigh
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1910
Parish: King Cross (Halifax), St Paul
Baptism Date: 22 May 1910
Father's Name: Willie Haigh (Labourer)
Mother's Name: Winifred Salina Haigh


(1910 could be above, says Shoesmith, side of image)


1911
SHOESMITH, Arthur Head Married M 52 1859 Labourer Road Halifax Yorks
SHOESMITH, Hannah Wife Married30 years F 52 1859 Carlton Notts
SHOESMITH, George Son Single M 24 1887 Painter And Decorator Nottingham
SHOESMITH, Hilda Daughter Single F 21 1890 Worsted Winder Halifax Yorks
SHOESMITH, Harry Grandson M 1 1910 Halifax Yorks
HAIGH, Winifred Daughter Married 3 years F 22 1889 Weaver Torquary Devon
HAIGH, Albert Grandson M 3 1908 Halifax Yorks
HAIGH, Phyllis Granddaughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Halifax Yorks
RG number: RG14
Piece: 26527
Reference: RG14PN26527 RG78PN1529 RD496 SD6 ED11 SN302
Registration District: Halifax
Sub District: Halifax North
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Halifax
Address: 15 Godley Road Halifax
County: Yorkshire (West riding)


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Willie Haigh (Yarn Washer)
Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 25 Jan 1908
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: Foster Haigh (Printer)
Spouse's Name: Winifred Selina Shoesmith
Spouse's Father's Name: Arthur Shoesmith

Chris :)

edits (looking at 1911 image for Albert Wilson, 'hanger on, underground, coal & clay colliery, thought I'd just check, lol)


1891
WILSON, Arthur Head Married M 32 1859 Warehouseman
Hoe, Yorkshire
WILSON, Sarah A Wife F 33 1858
Hoe, Yorkshire
WILSON, Annie Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar (Annice)
Hoe, Yorkshire
WILSON, Albert Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Hoe, Yorkshire
Piece: 3603
Folio: 78
Page: 6
Registration District: Halifax
Civil Parish: Halifax
Municipal Borough: Halifax
Address: 25, Ovenden Road, Halifax
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Nov 2012 17:14

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Raynor Haig
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
State: Western Australia
District: Fremantle
Subdistrict: Leederville
(Phyllis Rayonette Haigh too, all at 74, Fairford Street)

Chris :)

edits (with below, just found)

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
Name: Arthur Foulds Wilson
Birth Year: abt 1859
Parish: Illingworth, St Mary
Burial Date: 12 Oct 1918
Burial Age: 59
(same address as 1911)


(Mother, Outgoing)
Name: Mrs S A WILSON
Date of departure: 15 November 1919
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Fremantle, Australia
Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia
Date of Birth: 1858 (calculated from age)
Age: 61
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housekeeper
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 36
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ORMONDE
141866
Hugh Geoffrey Staunton
Orient Line
Australia
18682
9021
891

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 3 Dec 2012 09:23

Thanks, Chris.

Confused as to where Shoesmith fits in?

Still not clear on Phyllis' parents...wonder if she was born to Albert but then you have her listed as Haigh on the electoral roll - though that was after Albert had died.

She is a mystery!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Dec 2012 09:34

Hello Cherilyn,
Shoesmith was maiden name of Winifred... (mother of Phyllis Haigh 1910)

1911 has her with parents (above), and Willie with his!.

Chris :)

HAIGH, Foster Head Married M 50 1861 Printer Compositor Halifax Yorkshire
HAIGH, Mary Wife Married12 years F 39 1872 House Wife Luddenden Fort Yorkshire
HAIGH, Ernest Son Single M 26 1885 Fish And Chip Frier Shop Keeper Halifax Yorkshire
HAIGH, Willie Son Married M 24 1887 Packer Toffee Shop Halifax Yorkshire
HAIGH, Edith Daughter Single F 18 1893 Spinner At Worsted Mill Halifax Yorkshire
HAIGH, Arthur Son M 12 1899 School Part Time Bobbin Carrier At Worsted Mill Halifax Yorkshire
HAIGH, Harry Grandson M 0 1911 Halifax Yorkshire
RG number: RG14
Piece: 26478
Reference: RG14PN26478 RG78PN1528A RD496 SD5 ED27 SN58
Registration District: Halifax
Sub District: Halifax South
Enumeration District: 27
Parish: Halifax
Address: 26 Bruce Street Parkinson Lane Halifax
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 3 Dec 2012 13:37

to the 1911 voyage - are you saying that a Phyllis WILSON is listed as well as a Phyllis HAIGH? As 2 different ppl?

Thinking Willie is not connected to 'my' Phyllis, but could be wrong...

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Dec 2012 14:26

1911 voyage Phyllis Wilson.

(was just 'sorting' the 1910 Birth Phyllis Haigh you mentioned earlier)

Lol, not getting any nearer, sorry!...

Chris :)


Sunday Times (Perth, WA : 1902 - 1954)Sunday 17 December 1939

(lovely account of her Wedding)