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Pamela
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30 Nov 2012 08:40 |
Richard was bpt.Dec. 1808 at Wilsford nr.Pewsey in Wiltshire the son of John and Sarah. In 1841 aged 30 he is living in Wilsford with wife Ann 20, mother Sarah Woodroff/e 75, niece Sarah Woodroff 15 and a Sarah Pinche/in aged 6 all of county.
I did find a marriage for a Richard Woodroff to Ann Pinche/in Sep.1837 in Pewsey but beyond the above information I cannot find what happened to Richard or Ann after 1841. Ann would appear to have been born c.1817/8 and although I found one born in Box Wilts at that time she apparently married some one else.
Your help in solving this would be most appreciated and I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this message.
Pamela
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30 Nov 2012 08:44 |
Richard Woodroff England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1808 ,? WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY,? WILTSHIRE,? ENGLAND residence: Wilsford near Pewsey,? Wiltshire,? England parents: John Woodroff,? Sarah
name: Richard Woodroff gender: Male baptism/christening date: 1808 baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND father's name: John Woodroff mother's name: Sarah indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1279338
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Pamela
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30 Nov 2012 08:53 |
Yes thank you Ann, this is the one, if only I could find him after 1841.
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 09:33 |
A child?
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Richard Woodroffe in entry for Frederick Woodroffe, 1842 « Back to search results No image available Search collection About this collection name: Frederick Woodroffe gender: Male baptism/christening date: 02 Oct 1842 baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: Richard Woodroffe father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Ann mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 1279338 reference number: Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NYCW-8B2 : accessed 30 Nov 2012), Richard Woodroffe in entry for Frederick Woodroffe, 02 Oct 1842; citing , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1279338.
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 09:34 |
and another?
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1839 « Back to search results No image available Search collection About this collection name: Joseph Woodroffe gender: Male baptism/christening date: 1839 baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: Richard Woodroffe father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Ann mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1279338 reference number: - 2:1Z7N9RS Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NBG2-BMT : accessed 30 Nov 2012), Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1839; citing , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND, reference - 2:1Z7N9RS; FHL microfilm 1279338.
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 09:35 |
First Joseph probably died as there is another one baptised in 1845?
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1845 « Back to search results No image available Search collection About this collection name: Joseph Woodroffe gender: Male baptism/christening date: 1845 baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: Richard Woodroffe father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Ann mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1279338 reference number: - 2:1Z7NCF3 Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ND1F-RZJ : accessed 30 Nov 2012), Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1845; citing , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND, reference - 2:1Z7NCF3; FHL microfilm 1279338.
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 09:40 |
Possible death of first Joseph:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Joseph Woodroffe Name: Joseph Woodroffe Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1840 Registration district: Pewsey Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 8 Page: 286
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 09:41 |
Could be that the second one died also:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Joseph Woodroff Name: Joseph Woodroff Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1848 Registration district: Devizes Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 8 Page: 240
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lancashireAnn
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30 Nov 2012 11:24 |
????????
Deaths Jun 1846 (>99%) Woodroff Richard Kingston 4 155
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Pamela
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30 Nov 2012 11:57 |
Thank you very much Catherine, what a find. Because I never found any children with him in 1841, I assumed Richard and Ann hadn't had any, that was a silly mistake on my part. At least I now have another clue to follow in Frederick and hopefully that will shed some light on his father and mother.
Lancashire Ann, thank you as well, I will certainly look to see if there's a connection to this Richard with the family.
Again many thanks to both of you.
Pamela
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 16:24 |
(Thinking out loud!)
If Richard did die, then I wonder if Ann remarried?
Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%) Carnal Honor Matilda Devizes 8 596 Hopkins Thomas Devizes 8 596 xxxx Stevens Robert Devizes 8 596 xxxx Woodroff Ann Devizes 8 596
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Marriages Sep 1861 (>99%) Cleverly Jane Pewsey 5a 253 Cleverly John Pewsey 5a 253 Kill George Pewsey 5a 253 Woodroff Ann Pewsey 5a 253
..................as we can't find her in 1851, then maybe the 1849 marriage is correct and so she would be under her new married name ????
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 16:36 |
The Ann Woodroff from 1849 marriage looks to have married Robert Stevens as I found Thomas and Honor together in 1851 census.
This looks to be Robert and Ann Stevens in 1851:-
1851 England Census about Ann Stevens Name: Ann Stevens Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Stevens Gender: F (Female) Where born: Devizes, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Devizes St John Town: Devizes County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: South End
Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: Devizes Sub-registration district: Bishops Cannings ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 118 Piece: 1839 Folio: 687 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Stevens 33 Ann Stevens 39 Elizabeth Stevens 6 Mo
...................so Ann's age is not a million miles away, so maybe worth considering ?
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Catherine
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30 Nov 2012 16:48 |
This seems to be the Ann Woodroff from the 1861 marriage:-
1871 England Census about Ann Cleverly Name: Ann Cleverly Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Cleverly Gender: Female Where born: Wilsford, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Wilsford Town: Wilsford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Pewsey Sub-registration district: Netheravon ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 97 Piece: 1938 Folio: 40 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age John Cleverly 31 Ann Cleverly 35 Thomas Cleverly 8 George Cleverly 7 Harry Cleverly 5 Richard Cleverly 64
.....................so looks as though you can rule this one out !
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Pamela
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1 Dec 2012 00:14 |
Hi Catherine
Ann married to Robert Stevens may well be the one and has adjusted her age to come nearer to his. Trouble is I know there are a lot of Woodroffes born/lived in the Devizes area that have been mixed up with our lot before so a lot of sifting will be required on my part.
There is an Ann Stevens died in Jan. 1886 Devizes with a birth of abt 1817 ( which would have been correct acc.to 1841 census) but haven't found her as yet after 1851 or Robert unless he is the one died Dec.1857 Devizes I did find Elizabeth Stevens b.abt 1851 Devizes as a servant in Somerset in 1871. Looked for Frederick b. 1842 and still cannot find him or Richard other than the death Lancashire Lass found in Surrey.
I'll look some more when I return from babysitting the grandchildren but I would like to thank you again for all your help, it's most appreciated.
Pamela
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Catherine
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1 Dec 2012 13:51 |
Thought that this might be Ann but looks as though it isn't:-
1861 England Census about Ann Stevens Name: Ann Stevens Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Hindon, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Hindon Ecclesiastical parish: Salisbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Condition as to marriage: (noted as unmarried)
Registration district: Tisbury Sub-registration district: Hindon ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Piece: 1322 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age James Bell 63 Susan Bell 62 Henry Bell 20 Michel Bell 22 Ann Stevens 46 ............................................
1881 England Census about Ann Stevens Name: Ann Stevens Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Hindon, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: West Tisbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Union Workhouse Noted as :- Imbicile (unmarried) Occupation: Pauper Registration district: Tisbury Sub-registration district: Tisbury ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2077 Folio: 61 Page Number: 31 .......................................................
Possible death for this one:-
Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%) Stevens Ann 69 Tisbury 5a 119
........................thought I'd post it anyway just so we can eliminate her from your research.
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Pamela
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1 Dec 2012 14:40 |
I did look at this one and checked back, she couldn't be her. It is odd that she can't be found in 1861, her daughter Elizabeth would only be 11 so I would expect her to be with her but can't find either of them.
Then I wondered if she married again, found a marriage for Ann Stevens to Thomas Weston in 1859 Devizes and a death for Ann Weston Devizes Jul 1878 b.c 1816 but to be truthfull I think I'm going round in circles here.
Just wish I could find Richard and what happened to Frederick Woodroff.
Pamela
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