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Richard Woodroff/e b.1808 Wiltshire

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Pamela

Pamela Report 30 Nov 2012 08:40

Richard was bpt.Dec. 1808 at Wilsford nr.Pewsey in Wiltshire the son of John and Sarah. In 1841 aged 30 he is living in Wilsford with wife Ann 20, mother Sarah Woodroff/e 75, niece Sarah Woodroff 15 and a Sarah Pinche/in aged 6 all of county.

I did find a marriage for a Richard Woodroff to Ann Pinche/in Sep.1837 in Pewsey but beyond the above information I cannot find what happened to Richard or Ann after 1841.
Ann would appear to have been born c.1817/8 and although I found one born in Box Wilts at that time she apparently married some one else.

Your help in solving this would be most appreciated and I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this message.

Pamela

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Nov 2012 08:44

Richard Woodroff
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 1808 ,? WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY,? WILTSHIRE,? ENGLAND
residence: Wilsford near Pewsey,? Wiltshire,? England
parents: John Woodroff,? Sarah


name: Richard Woodroff
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1808
baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
father's name: John Woodroff
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1279338

Pamela

Pamela Report 30 Nov 2012 08:53

Yes thank you Ann, this is the one, if only I could find him after 1841.

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 09:33

A child?

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Richard Woodroffe in entry for Frederick Woodroffe, 1842
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name: Frederick Woodroffe
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Oct 1842
baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Richard Woodroffe
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1279338
reference number:
Citing this Record

"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NYCW-8B2 : accessed 30 Nov 2012), Richard Woodroffe in entry for Frederick Woodroffe, 02 Oct 1842; citing , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1279338.

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 09:34

and another?

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1839
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name: Joseph Woodroffe
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1839
baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Richard Woodroffe
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1279338
reference number: - 2:1Z7N9RS
Citing this Record

"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NBG2-BMT : accessed 30 Nov 2012), Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1839; citing , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND, reference - 2:1Z7N9RS; FHL microfilm 1279338.

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 09:35

First Joseph probably died as there is another one baptised in 1845?

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1845
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name: Joseph Woodroffe
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1845
baptism/christening place: , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Richard Woodroffe
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C15218-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1279338
reference number: - 2:1Z7NCF3
Citing this Record

"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ND1F-RZJ : accessed 30 Nov 2012), Richard Woodroffe in entry for Joseph Woodroffe, 1845; citing , WILSFORD NEAR PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND, reference - 2:1Z7NCF3; FHL microfilm 1279338.

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 09:40

Possible death of first Joseph:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Joseph Woodroffe
Name: Joseph Woodroffe
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1840
Registration district: Pewsey
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 8
Page: 286

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 09:41

Could be that the second one died also:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Joseph Woodroff
Name: Joseph Woodroff
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1848
Registration district: Devizes
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 8
Page: 240

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 30 Nov 2012 11:24

????????

Deaths Jun 1846 (>99%)
Woodroff Richard Kingston 4 155

Pamela

Pamela Report 30 Nov 2012 11:57

Thank you very much Catherine, what a find. Because I never found any children with him in 1841, I assumed Richard and Ann hadn't had any, that was a silly mistake on my part.
At least I now have another clue to follow in Frederick and hopefully that will shed some light on his father and mother.

Lancashire Ann, thank you as well, I will certainly look to see if there's a connection to this Richard with the family.

Again many thanks to both of you.

Pamela

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 16:24

(Thinking out loud!)

If Richard did die, then I wonder if Ann remarried?

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)
Carnal Honor Matilda Devizes 8 596
Hopkins Thomas Devizes 8 596

xxxx Stevens Robert Devizes 8 596
xxxx Woodroff Ann Devizes 8 596

or

Marriages Sep 1861 (>99%)
Cleverly Jane Pewsey 5a 253
Cleverly John Pewsey 5a 253
Kill George Pewsey 5a 253
Woodroff Ann Pewsey 5a 253

..................as we can't find her in 1851, then maybe the 1849 marriage is correct and so she would be under her new married name ????

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 16:36

The Ann Woodroff from 1849 marriage looks to have married Robert Stevens as I found Thomas and Honor together in 1851 census.

This looks to be Robert and Ann Stevens in 1851:-

1851 England Census about Ann Stevens
Name: Ann Stevens
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Stevens
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Devizes St John
Town: Devizes
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: South End

Occupation: Bricklayer

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Bishops Cannings
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Piece: 1839
Folio: 687
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Stevens 33
Ann Stevens 39
Elizabeth Stevens 6 Mo

...................so Ann's age is not a million miles away, so maybe worth considering ?

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Nov 2012 16:48

This seems to be the Ann Woodroff from the 1861 marriage:-

1871 England Census about Ann Cleverly
Name: Ann Cleverly
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Cleverly
Gender: Female
Where born: Wilsford, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Wilsford
Town: Wilsford
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Pewsey
Sub-registration district: Netheravon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 97
Piece: 1938
Folio: 40
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cleverly 31
Ann Cleverly 35
Thomas Cleverly 8
George Cleverly 7
Harry Cleverly 5
Richard Cleverly 64

.....................so looks as though you can rule this one out !

Pamela

Pamela Report 1 Dec 2012 00:14

Hi Catherine

Ann married to Robert Stevens may well be the one and has adjusted her age to come nearer to his.
Trouble is I know there are a lot of Woodroffes born/lived in the Devizes area that have been mixed up with our lot before so a lot of sifting will be required on my part.

There is an Ann Stevens died in Jan. 1886 Devizes with a birth of abt 1817 ( which would have been correct acc.to 1841 census) but haven't found her as yet after 1851 or Robert unless he is the one died Dec.1857 Devizes
I did find Elizabeth Stevens b.abt 1851 Devizes as a servant in Somerset in 1871.

Looked for Frederick b. 1842 and still cannot find him or Richard other than the death Lancashire Lass found in Surrey.

I'll look some more when I return from babysitting the grandchildren but I would like to thank you again for all your help, it's most appreciated.

Pamela

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Dec 2012 13:51

Thought that this might be Ann but looks as though it isn't:-

1861 England Census about Ann Stevens
Name: Ann Stevens
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Hindon, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Hindon
Ecclesiastical parish: Salisbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Condition as to marriage: (noted as unmarried)

Registration district: Tisbury
Sub-registration district: Hindon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 1322
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bell 63
Susan Bell 62
Henry Bell 20
Michel Bell 22
Ann Stevens 46
............................................

1881 England Census about Ann Stevens
Name: Ann Stevens
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Hindon, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: West Tisbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: Union Workhouse
Noted as :- Imbicile (unmarried)
Occupation: Pauper
Registration district: Tisbury
Sub-registration district: Tisbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2077
Folio: 61
Page Number: 31
.......................................................

Possible death for this one:-

Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Stevens Ann 69 Tisbury 5a 119

........................thought I'd post it anyway just so we can eliminate her from your research.

Pamela

Pamela Report 1 Dec 2012 14:40

I did look at this one and checked back, she couldn't be her. It is odd that she can't be found in 1861, her daughter Elizabeth would only be 11 so I would expect her to be with her but can't find either of them.

Then I wondered if she married again, found a marriage for Ann Stevens to Thomas Weston in 1859 Devizes and a death for Ann Weston Devizes Jul 1878 b.c 1816 but to be truthfull I think I'm going round in circles here.

Just wish I could find Richard and what happened to Frederick Woodroff.

Pamela