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Beatrice May Humphries 1904

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Christina

Christina Report 3 Dec 2012 18:42

Hi,
I am looking for any info on Beatrice May Humphries, born 1904 Wells Somerset. Her parents may have been John and Susan, and I believe she had a brother John/Jack. So far I cannot find anything about her.
Thanks,Chris.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Dec 2012 18:43

Hello Chris, how did you connect to her?

What info do you have so we don't duplicate it?

Have you searched FreeBMD for records? http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Have you used the Search Trees facility here to see if anyone else has her?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Dec 2012 18:47

Possible 1911:

HUMPHRIES, John Husband Married M 48 1863 Stone Mason Labourer Wincanton Somt
HUMPHRIES, Susan Wife Married19 years F 39 1872 Wincanton Somt
HUMPHRIES, Eveline Gladys Daughter F 17 1894 Shoe Machinist Street Somt
HUMPHRIES, Robert John Son M 14 1897 School Street Somt
HUMPHRIES, Beatress May Daughter F 7 1904 Street Somt
HUMPHRIES, Ivy Dorreen Daughter F 2 1909 Street Somt
HUMPHRIES, Christina Winnefred Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Street Somt

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14544
Reference: RG14PN14544 RG78PN881 RD313 SD2 ED11 SN139
Registration District: Wells
Sub District: Glastonbury
Enumeration District: 11

Street Address: 7 Brights Terrace Street County: Somersetshire

5 children born, all still alive.

Christina

Christina Report 3 Dec 2012 19:39

Hi,
Thanks for your quick reply. She was an old friends mother and he has been trying to find out about her family. I note from your reply she is on the census as Beatress not Beatrice, so that's why I could not find her.
So far yours is the only info he has so now at least we have a starting point. It's the right family as John was a stone mason.
Thanks,
Chris

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Dec 2012 21:28

A copy of her birth certificate will give her mother's maiden name so you can then work back:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1904
Humphries Beatrice May Wells 5c 412

Her name was written as Beatress on the original 1911 image but her dad (who filled the form in) had put his own name as Jhon so spelling may not have been his strongest point!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Dec 2012 21:33

1901 shows a nephew George Rumble - might be useful:

HUMPHRIES, John Head Married M 38 1863 Mason Wincanton, Somersetshire
HUMPHRIES, Susen Wife Married F 29 1872 Machinist (Shoe) Wincanton, Somersetshire
HUMPHRIES, Eveline G Daughter Single F 7 1894 Street, Somersetshire
HUMPHRIES, Robert J Son Single M 4 1897 Street, Somersetshire
RUMBLE, George Nephew Single M 17 1884 Shoemaker (Factory Hand) Wincanton, Somersetshire

Piece: 2319 Folio: 50 Page: 1
Registration District: Wells
Civil Parish: Street

Address: Portway, Street County: Somersetshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Dec 2012 21:40

Given the nephew's name in 1901, I wonder if this marriage is a possible:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1892
Chilcott Emma Wincanton 5c 729
Evans William Wincanton 5c 729
HUMPHRIES John Wincanton 5c 729 <<
Rumbold Susan Wincanton 5c 729 ??

But, Beatrice May's birth cert would be the best bet.

Christina

Christina Report 3 Dec 2012 21:40

Hi,
I found a marriage of a John Humphries to a Susan Rumbold Sept 1/4 1892 Wincanton. I tried to look her up but not getting too far. I only can rely on free census. I contacted my friend and the family still lived at the same address in 1960s as was on 1911 census! I noticed his spelling was bad on the other names! I will try to sort out John's side 1st I think.
Thanks again,
Chris.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Dec 2012 21:46

Looks like we found the same marriage at the same time Christina!

Mike *

Mike * Report 3 Dec 2012 22:27

1881 - Bayford Hill, Somerset

Elizabeth Humphries 45 - widow - Wincanton Somerset
son -John Humphries 16 - labourer - Wincanton Smerset
dau - Elizabeth Humphries 13
dau - Mary Humphries 12

Christina

Christina Report 3 Dec 2012 22:36

Hi Mike,
Thanks for that. I love the way people are prepared to look stuff up for others. It really helps.
Chris

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2012 19:14

I wonder if Susan really was a Rumble and the Rumbold on the marriage was a typo or mis-heard?

1881:

RUMBLE, Robert Head Married M 40 1841 Ag Lab Sturminster Marshall, Dorset
RUMBLE, Emma Wife Married F 42 1839 Wincanton, Somerset
RUMBLE, Mary Daughter Single F 14 1867 General Servant Wincanton, Somerset
RUMBLE, James Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Wincanton, Somerset
RUMBLE, Susan Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Wincanton, Somerset
RUMBLE, Robert Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Wincanton, Somerset

Piece: 2397 Folio: 90 Page: 4
Registration District: Wincanton
Civil Parish: Wincanton

Address: Whitehall, Wincanton County: Somersetshire
_____________________________________________________________

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1873
Rumble Susan Wincanton 5c 518

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2012 19:23

This 1891 seems to tie in:

RUMBLE, Emma Wife Married F 53 1838 Wincanton, Somersetshire
RUMBLE, George Grandson M 6 1885 Scholar Wincanton, Somersetshire

Piece: 1903 Folio: 94 Page: 17
Registration District: Wincanton
Civil Parish: Wincanton

Address: 20, Whitehall, Wincanton County: Somersetshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2012 19:26

1871 for Susan's family:

RUMBLE, Robert Head M 30 1841 Dorset, Sturminster. Ag Lab.
RUMBLE, Emma Wife F 32 1839 Somerset
RUMBLE, Eliza Daughter F 7 1864 Somerset
RUMBLE, Fanny Daughter F 5 1866 Somerset
RUMBLE, Mary Jane Daughter F 3 1868 Somerset

Piece: 2426 Folio: 118 Page: 3
Registration District: Wincanton
Civil Parish: Wincanton

Address: Ireson Lane, Wincanton County: Somersetshire

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Dec 2012 19:30

This looks like George in 1891
Name: George Rumble
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Wincanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Wincanton
Town: Wincanton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Name: John Warren
[John Rumble]
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Warren
[Emma Warren]
Gender: Male
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Wincanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Wincanton
Town: Wincanton
County/Island: Somerset

Name: Jane Warren
[Jane Rumble]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Warren
Gender: Female
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England
Civil parish: Wincanton

Name: Walter Coombs
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England

Name: Emma Warren
[Emma Rumble]
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Warren
Gender: Female
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Wincanton

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2012 19:33

Normally we expect a marriage to be near the bride's birthplace but I wouldn't dismiss this for Susan's parents (would need further checking)

Dorset, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Robert Rumble - bachelor
Bann Date: 16, 23 & 30 Aug 1863
Parish: Blandford Forum
Spouse's Name: Emma Baily - spinster

Both resident in the parish.

This is a banns record, can't locate an actual marriage.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2012 19:41

In the Western Gazette of 1 October 1875 a Robert Rumble of Wincanton was fined 5s (inc costs) for not sending his children to school. (He was fined 2s 6d for the same thing in 1880)

Western Gazette, 2 July 1880 - Emma Rumble, wife of Robert of Wincanton, was fined 5s 6d for beating Wm Ashworth (11) with a stick. She admitted the offence but claimed he had called her names and was very saucy.

The Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette dated 4 August 1887 carried a report about the Somerset Industrial School for Boys. In it there is mention of a Robert Rumble who won a prize for "careful work throughout the year". (Possibly the son of Robert & Emma born 1876?)

Christina

Christina Report 4 Dec 2012 19:51

Just spoken to Beatrices son, who is now in his 70's and he seems to recall the name Rumble from his youth! As you say it may have been misheard.
Am printing all this so will have to sort it out. Thanks there's a lot of info here.

On 1881 census there's John aged 16 who I think was Beatrice's Father, and his mother Elizabeth aged 45 and a widow. I found a marriage of a John Humphries to an Elizabeth White in 1863 Wincanton. These must be Beatrices Grandparents I think.

Christina

Christina Report 4 Dec 2012 19:57

I love the bit from the Western Gazette!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2012 20:02

There only seems to be one Susan Rumble in Somerset according to the 1881 census so am hoping this next item is about her:

The Western Gazette 20 July 1883 reported on a Flower & Livestock show promoted by the Wincanton Church Sunday school for its scholars. A Susan Rumble won a commendation in the best doe rabbit category.