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Name: Annie Pereira Death Date: 8 May 1927 Death Place: South Australia Registration Year: 1926-1930 Registration Place: South Australia Page Number: 91 Volume Number: 495
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Hi there
Thanks for your help, hopefully this might get me somewhere
Angelina
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1911 ?
Name: Kate McCarthy Age in 1911: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Occupier (Occupant) Gender: Female Birth Place: Bermondsey, Surrey, England Civil parish: Bermondsey County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 33 Paulin St, Bermondsey S E Marital Status: Single Occupation: FACTORY HAND Registration district: St Olave (Bermondsey) Registration District Number: 24 Sub-registration district: Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 1878 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Norman 27 Harriat Norman 28 Thomas Norman 5 William Norman 2 Mary McCarthy 21 Kate McCarthy 19 View image
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Thank you also for this information! I think I need to track back on this Kate McCarthy. I guess she must have been born around 1892, I If I go back further in the census records I might find her with an Annie McCarthy and maybe even their parents! Thank you all very much for your help!
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There is a marriage in 1910 between William Robert Walters and a Kate mcCarthy. In the 1911 census he is with his widowed mother. He is noted as married under one year but there is no sign of Kate.
Her father is noted as Timothy Augustin McCarthy deceased book binder
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Hi Thanks for your help. I'm not sure if this is the correct Kate but I'll keep searching. :-)
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This is the death that Astra found.
1927 495/91 PEREIRA Annie Manuel PEREIRA [DH] Norwood
EDIT No this lady was Anne Quinlan. At least you can rule her out. They married in Port Adelaide in 1885 which is way too early.
1885 144/499 PEIREIRA Manuel QUINLAN Anne Port Adelaide
From http://www.genealogysa.org.au
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Oh, but hold on a minute. Look at this.
Have you no idea about when they were born?
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Anne Quinlan Name: Anne Quinlan >>Father's Name: Bryan Mccarthy Spouse Name: Manuel Peireira Spouse's Father's Name: Mariano Peireira Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1885 Marriage Place: Port Adelaide Registration Place: Port Adelaide, South Australia Page Number: 499 Volume Number: 144
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parents: Bryan Mccarthy spouse: Charles Quinland groom's name: Charles Quinland bride's name: Ann Mccarthy bride's birth date: 1845 bride's age: 18 marriage date: 25 May 1863 marriage place: St. Botolph Aldgate, London, England groom's father's name: Michael Quinland bride's father's name: Bryan Mccarthy indexing project (batch) number: M01660-8 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 94680
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ann McCarthy Name: Ann McCarthy Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Age: 18 Spouse Name: Charles Quinland, mariner of full age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 May 1863 Parish: St Botolph, Aldgate Borough: City of London Father Name: Bryan McCarthy, horseman Spouse Father Name: Michael Quinland, dead
Charles signed his name Quinlan. Witnesses were John Murphy and ? Scully. Register Type: Parish Register
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Could have done with some idea of dates.
Are we saying that the Annie you are looking for was born 1845 and Kate was her sister ?
How do you know Kate was living at Jamaica Road in 1907 ? How old was she then ?
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1851 census transcription details for: 26, Griffiths Rents, Saint John, Southwark Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1559 Folio: 569 Page: 49 Reg. District: Saint Olave Southwark Sub District: Saint John Parish: Saint John Enum. District: 10 Ecclesiastical District: Saint Marks City/Municipal Borough: Southwark Address: 26, Griffiths Rents, Saint John, Southwark County: Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MCCARTHY, Brian Head Married M 34 1817 Labourer Ireland MCCARTHY, Ellen A Wife Married F 31 1820 Labouring In Warehouse Ireland ??MCCARTHY, Honora Daughter F 6 1845 Bermondsey, Surrey MCCARTHY, Denis Son M 3 1848 Bermondsey, Surrey MCCARTHY, Mary Daughter F 1 1850 Bermondsey, Surrey
1861 census transcription details for: 5, College Street, Saint John Horsleydown, Southwark Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 318 Folio: 86 Page: 22 Reg. District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: 2 St John Horsleydown Parish: Saint John Horsleydown Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Southwark Address: 5, College Street, Saint John Horsleydown, Southwark County: London, Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MC CARTHY, Brin Head Married M 43 1818 Wharf Labourer Ireland MC CARTHY, Ellen Wife Married F 41 1820 Ireland ???MC CARTHY, Honora Daughter F 16 1845 Bookfolder St Saviour Southwark, Surrey MC CARTHY, Denis Son M 14 1847 Scholar St Saviour Southwark, Surrey MC CARTHY, Mary Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar St Johns Southwark, Surrey >>MC CARTHY, Catherine Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar St Johns Southwark, Surrey MC CARTHY, Bridget Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar St Johns Southwark, Surrey MC CARTHY, Johanna Daughter F 2 1859 St Johns Southwark, Surrey
1871 census transcription details for: College Street, St John Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 626 Folio: 80 Page: 12 Reg. District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: St John Parish: St John Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: College Street, St John County: London, Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born MCCARTHY, Bryan Head M 52 1819 Ireland MCCARTHY, Ellen Wife F 50 1821 Ireland MCCARTHY, Denis Son M 23 1848 Surrey MCCARTHY, Mary Daughter bookfolder F 20 1851 Surrey >>MCCARTHY, Catharine Daughter bookfolder F 17 1854 Surrey MCCARTHY, Bridget Daughter F 15 1856 Surrey MCCARTHY, Johanna Daughter F 12 1859 Surrey O CONNELL, William Boarder M 20 1851 Yorkshire
1881 census transcription details for: 5, College St, Horsleydown Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 557 Folio: 75 Page: 25 Reg. District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: St John Horsleydown Parish: Horsleydown Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 5, College St, Horsleydown County: London, Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MC CARTHY, Bryan Head Married M 61 1820 Waterside Labourer Ireland MC CARTHY, Ellen Wife Married F 61 1820 Ireland >.MC CARTHY, Catherine Daughter Single F 27 1854 Book Folder Bermondsey, Surrey MC CARTHY, Bridget Daughter Single F 24 1857 Tailoress Bermondsey, Surrey MC CARTHY, Johanna Daughter Single F 21 1860 School Teacher Bermondsey, Surrey
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Now look at Catherine (Kate?) in 1901.
1901 census transcription details for: 17, Jamaica Road, Bermondsey Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 392 Folio: 11 Page: 14 Reg. District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: Bermondsey Parish: Bermondsey Enum. District: 30 Ecclesiastical District: St Jame's City/Municipal Borough: Address: 17, Jamaica Road, Bermondsey County: London Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MCCARTHY, Catherine Single F 46 1855 Book Folder Bermondsey, London
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Oh my goodness, thank you all so much for your help! "Alviegal" I think you've cracked it!!! I knew we had a "Catherine" but I didn't think that she was Kate as I could find no record of Annie being a sister. Bryan McCarthy born in 1818 and Ellen Burk nee McCarthy are my Great Great Great Grandparents and Catherine was their daughter. In 1845 I have Hanora their daughter being born but don't have a record of Annie. Bryan always worked at Hays and Cottons Wharf and I don't think he was ever a Horseman, however I know records are sometimes not quite right so maybe they've thought it said horseman rather than Wharf Labourer. However looking at Catherine going through the years Annie must be the daughter of Bryan and Ellen as well. Could Annie be a nick name for Hanora? This would be why I have never been able to find out what happened to her! The reason I have been searching for so long is because my Auntie has a little book which says to my sister Kate McCarthy from your loving sister Annie PEREIRA and the address was to 17 Jamaica Road from Port Adelaide :-) I had not dates at all just that the date written on the book to Kate was in 1907. I can't believe that you all managed to find so much information based on what I gave you! Thank you so so so so so much! My Auntie will be so thrilled. It's so nice that there are people out there so willing to help. Angelina
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1911 (still there) MCCUTHY, Catherine Single F 57 1854 Bookfolder Parish of St Olives RG number: RG14 Piece: 1905 Reference: RG14PN1905 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED37 SN101 Registration District: St Olave (Bermondsey) Sub District: Bermondsey Enumeration District: 37 Parish: Bermondsey Address: 17 Jamaica Road Bermondsey County: London
Chris :)
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Thanks Chris! I would never have looked under McCuthy! That must have taken you ages to find! so so appreciated! It looks like she must have been single her whole life bless her. Thanks again! :-)
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Hi Angelina,
Well, I didn't expect to find the ladies you were looking for but, thank goodness Annie married men with unusual surnames!! I have no idea if Honora is Annie or not but the year of birth does match. Perhaps Annie is a middle name?
But then there is this. Perhaps this is thinking rather too deep, though.
Annora \a-nno-ra\ as a girl's name is pronounced an-NOR-ah. It is of Latin origin, and the meaning of Annora is "honor". English variant and phonetic version of Honora.
Annora has 7 variant forms: Anora, Anorah, Honor, Honora, Onora, Nora and Norah.
For more information, see also the related name Ann. Read more at http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Annora#6JIXOuDDkq4eRhil.99
As for Bryan being a horseman, looking at the image again, it might read storeman. Perhaps someone else could give their view?
So glad we managed to crack this one, it has been fun.
Best wishes, Liz <3
PS I also have Pereiras in my family, originally of Portuguese descent living in Goa.
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Hi Liz
That's very interesting about the names. I've never been sure if it say Hanora or Honora but I'm thinking it's Hanora and they've called her Anne or Annie as a nick name. However Anne or Annie being the middle name does also sound a possibility. I'm going to have to hunt down a birth certificate for her. I have the page and volume number so I must do that now! I could never find any details about her but if she was called by a different name that makes much more sense!
Ahh maybe Bryan was a Storeman, that makes sense as he was working on the Docks. I did a lot of research on Bryan as I wanted to know more about where he's from. The unfortunate thing is, he was born in 1818 Ireland and all I know is that it was a parish near Killarney and it was within East Muskerry. I did try the Irish website as they were meant to have put on most of Cork's parish records however he isn't on there. I did try a few researchers that are in Ireland but as I can't provide an actual Parish they can't really help as there are about 26 Parishes of them and it could be any!
You know they say it's a small world, maybe your Pereiras are related to mine! :-)
Thanks so much again Liz it really is appreciated and my Auntie is going to be thrilled! <3
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