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george turner 1842 cromford

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Sharon

Sharon Report 5 Dec 2012 12:20

hi I am trying to find the birth of George Turner in 1842 cromford I have got his marriage cetificate to Hannah wilson in oct 1864. But i cannot find our any more his father is listed on the certificate as George Turner occupation coppersmith.
George got married in Rotherham & is listed in 1871 as at Kimberworth
?He is not the artist but i did think so at one point

I have to come to a standstill at the moment with him

His son was Arthur Wilson Turner born in 1870, other childern Eleanor, Thomas Alice & Annie

George died in 1920 in rotherham

Arthur married Mary elizabeth Bramhill in 1891

Thanks for any help

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Dec 2012 12:30

welcome Sharon - where is Cromford?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Dec 2012 12:32

George Turner
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1843 Cromford,? Derbyshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Derby,? Derbyshire,? England


name: George Turner
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 58
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Cromford, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Derby
sub-district: Derby
ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
civil parish: Derby
county: Derbyshire

George Turner
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 Sep 1843 SAINT MARY,?CROMFORD,?DERBY,?ENGLAND
parents: Sarah Turner


name: George Turner
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Sep 1843
baptism/christening place: SAINT MARY,CROMFORD,DERBY,ENGLAND
mother's name: Sarah Turner
indexing project (batch) number: C04979-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 498056

George Turner
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1842 Cromford,? Derbyshire,? England
census: 1881 Kimberworth,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England
spouse: Hannah Turner
children: Thomas Turner,? Eleanor Turner...


name: George Turner
age: 39
gender: Male
birth year: 1842
birthplace: Cromford, Derbyshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Iron Moulder
address: 130 Wortley Road
census place: Kimberworth, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342131
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 4675 / 98
page number: 23

George Turner
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1842 Cromford,? Derbyshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Rotherham,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England


name: George Turner
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 59
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Cromford, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Rotherham
sub-district: North West Rotherham
ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Kimberworth
civil parish: Rotherham
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)

Potty

Potty Report 5 Dec 2012 12:32

Ann, Cromford is in Derbyshire.

this is the nearest I can find before 1871 but the father is wrong:

1851 England Census
about Geo Turner
Name: Geo Turner
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Turner - Tailor
Mother's Name: Mary Turner
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Cromford, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Derby St Peter
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 19s
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 2143
Folio: 400
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Turner 34
Mary Turner 32
Geo Turner 9
Geo Brown 27


Sharon

Sharon Report 5 Dec 2012 12:36

Cromford is in derbyshire
yes that was the father i was going along with till i got the marriage certificate last week

he went to kent in 1891 with Hannah they had 2 children then annie & alice

in 1901 they went back to rotherham and were still in that area in 1911

Margee

Margee Report 5 Dec 2012 12:36

Bakewell registration district covers Cromford:

Births Mar 1842 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Turner George Bakewell 19 375

Potty

Potty Report 5 Dec 2012 12:36

Think we can eliminate this one - shown as Insane:

1861 England Census
about George Turner
Name: George Turner
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Turner
Mother's Name: Sarah Turner
Gender: Male
Where born: Eckington, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Eckington and Mosborough
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 7e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 2534
Folio: 113
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Turner 47
Sarah Turner 48
John Turner 23
William Turner 21
George Turner 19
Septimus Turner 12
Sarah Turner 6


Sharon

Sharon Report 5 Dec 2012 12:46

Potty
you are right with the 1881 cenus in Kimberworth george hannah thomas eleanor, alice. He was an iron moulder

Sharon

Sharon Report 5 Dec 2012 12:46

Potty
you are right with the 1881 cenus in Kimberworth george hannah thomas eleanor, alice. He was an iron moulder

Gins

Gins Report 5 Dec 2012 13:10

I think this is him and the enumerator entered the wrong surname

Edit: Potty has solved the surname change...see below


1861 England Census
Name: George Taylor
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Taylor
Mother's Name: Sarah Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Cromford, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Rotherham
Ecclesiastical parish: Rotherham
Town: Rotherham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: Rotherham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 3504
Folio: 101
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
George Taylor 52
Sarah Taylor 52
George Taylor 20 <<<Iron moulder
Maria Taylor 18


1851 England Census
about George Taylor
Name: George Taylor
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Taylor
Mother's Name: Sarah Taylor
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Cromford, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Winshill
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 2012
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
George Taylor 38 <<Coppersmith
Sarah Taylor 39
George Taylor 11
Maria Taylor 7


Did Taylor turn into Turner????

Potty

Potty Report 5 Dec 2012 13:14

Well done, Gins.

George snr is a coppersmith and was born in Yarmouth, Norfolk

Gins

Gins Report 5 Dec 2012 13:16

Births Dec 1842
----------------------------------------------------
Taylor George Burton on Trent 17 1


Potty

Potty Report 5 Dec 2012 13:24

Or was George born Turner (as th baptism Ann posted) and Sarah later married George Taylor?

Potty

Potty Report 5 Dec 2012 13:59

Is a brazier the same as a coppersmith (from freereg):

County Derbyshire
Place Wirksworth
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 24 Dec 1842
GroomForename George
GroomSurname TAYLOR
GroomAge
GroomParish Cromford
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Brazier
GroomAbode
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname TURNER
BrideAge
BrideParish Cromford
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename George
GroomFatherSurname TAYLOR
GroomFatherOccupation Brazier
BrideFatherForename Richard
BrideFatherSurname TURNER
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Gamaliel
WitnessOneSurname MARTIN
WitnessTwoForename Ann
WitnessTwoSurname CLACK
Notes
FileNumber 21643


A brazier worked with brass (http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/b2.html) ; not that different to copper.

Gins

Gins Report 5 Dec 2012 14:57

County Derbyshire
Place Wirksworth
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 16 Sep 1811
GroomForename Richard
GroomSurname TURNER
GroomAge
GroomParish Cromford
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Martha
BrideSurname CLARKE
BrideAge
BrideParish Wirksworth

WitnessOneForename George
WitnessOneSurname ALLEN
WitnessTwoForename Joshua
WitnessTwoSurname STREET
Notes
FileNumber 21643



1841 England Census
Name: Richard Turner
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Wirksworth
Hundred: Wirksworth
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bakewell
Sub-registration district: Matlock
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 198
Book: 14
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Turner 50
Marther Turner 50 <<<Labourer
Sarah Sarnes 25 <<Turner
Ann Sarnes 10 <<Turner





Derek

Derek Report 6 Dec 2012 22:31

Hello Sharon and Gins.have answered you Sharon on my Thread............unfortunately the baptism entry show only Sarah as a parent..which usually means illegitimacy..and since the surname is Turner.if Sarah married later is likely to be to someone other than Turner......'lltry and find out...........you can probably ignore the 1874 marriage mentioned..as I am happy with the later history that you have......

Derek.

Sharon

Sharon Report 6 Dec 2012 23:17

Thanks for any help Derek and anyone else has given me. it is only since i got the marriage certifiacte for George that says George is his father if you want more will do my best for you.
Sharon

Sharon

Sharon Report 19 Dec 2012 21:32

Hi Gin
Thanks for your help re george Turner 1842 Cromford, Another Question for you do you know when Sarah Turner was born and where and her age when she had George. Sorry been a while getting back to you but took me a while to get round all the info.
Thanks