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Ian
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6 Dec 2012 22:03 |
Many thanks. Just have to keep searching and hope to find the proverbial 'needle in haystack'.
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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6 Dec 2012 21:03 |
This is for Ann's Father Thomas Gray..
Burial: 30 Dec 1891 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England Thomas Gray - Age: 72yrs Abode: Stoops St Grave: A8819 Notes: Buried in a Public Grave Register: Burials 1890 - 1895, Page 110, Entry 39988 Source: Original Registers Book 6
Sorry I can't find Samuel or Ann's death.
Got this from Lancashore Parish clerks.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
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6 Dec 2012 11:03 |
Thanks
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Ian
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6 Dec 2012 09:20 |
Ann's Marriage:
27 August 1865 Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, Yorks Ann was shown as 17 years old (she was 15) illiterate Married Samuel HUDSON (Bachelor) age 22 years Fathers: John HUDSON & Thomas GREY (illiterate) both Labourers. Witnesses: Charles & Ann Shaw (both illiterate)
Ann's Birth:
Ann GRAY 10 February 1850 Butcherley Green (Birchley Green), St John, Hertford, Herts Mother Sarah GRAY (formerly HARVEY) - illiterate Father Thomas GRAY (Labourer) Registered 22 February 1850.
Her Father died 1891 Habergham Eaves Burnley
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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6 Dec 2012 00:02 |
Ian,
If you have the marriage cert for Ann and Samuel. Could you please let us know what her father's name and his occupation also Ann's occupation and how old she was on the marriage cert.
I have found my NBI 3 edition so will have a look on that to see if I can see their burials tomorrow afternoon.
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Ian
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5 Dec 2012 23:25 |
JannieAnnie
Thanks - tried that already.
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5 Dec 2012 22:18 |
I expect as you have information relating to the Bolton/Horwich area already you will have this website
http://www.boltonmuseums.org.uk/bolton-archives/archives-indexes/cemetery-registers/
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Ian
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5 Dec 2012 21:12 |
A thought!
I believe that that they probably finished their days in the Bolton/Horwich area and it is highly likely that as he was a railway worker he was employed at the Horwich Railway Works.
Coming from the Brickworks area of Staffordshire I believe he was employed building bridges, stations and tunnels. This would tie in nicely with the building of the new Railway Works in Horwich at that time (between the last 2 Censuses).
Any idea as to whether this would help my research ??
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Ian
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5 Dec 2012 21:02 |
Christine
Daughter Emma (married 1898) does not show Father as Deceased. He was still alive in 1911. Daughter Eliza, my G Grandmother, does not appear to have been 'legally married' - extensive research (including Professional help) has found no marriage. She died in 1907 and her death certificate shows 'wife of George Craven'
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Ian
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5 Dec 2012 20:59 |
Santa Sue,
Already have Ann died 1926 Stockport Samuel died 1918 Cumbria is probably Samuel born 1843 Westmorland :-S
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Christine
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5 Dec 2012 20:54 |
(Where did divorce come into it?)
I think Ian misunderstood "if father was d'ced on a cert".
I think Jan meant deceased?
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KathleenBell
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5 Dec 2012 20:53 |
How about this possibility for Samuel:-
Name: HUDSON, Samuel Registration district: Bootle (Cumberland) County: Cumberland Year of registration: 1918 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death: 75 Volume no: 10B Page no: 816
Kath. x
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5 Dec 2012 20:50 |
These are only possibles
There is 1 in Bootle
Deaths Sep 1918 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hudson Samuel 75 Bootle 10b 816
This one is off FREEBMD
Which makes this born 1843.
Civil registration event: Death Name: HUDSON, Samuel Registration district: [?] Bootle (Cumberland) County: Cumberland Year of registration: 1918 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death:75 Volume no: 10B Page no: 816
Same on off FMP.Notice Bootle Cumberland in brackets.
For Ann,,
possible
Deaths Mar 1926 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hudson Ann 76 Stockport 8a 87
born 1850
same on FMP
Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: HUDSON, Ann Registration district: Stockport County: Cheshire Year of registration: 1926 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 76 Volume no: 8A Page no: 87
These are only possibles but you could always ring the GRO and give the details and ask who the informant was before you buy it..
Good Luck
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WayneTracey
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5 Dec 2012 20:47 |
What makes you think they stayed in the area?
If he had accommodation with his job, there's a good chance he had to leave that (and possibly the area) if he retired.... Do you know if he appeared on any ER's? (if he didn't own any property then possibly not)
Have you considered looking at death entries in local newspapers? It's possible there might be something there....
I personally know your frustration,.... i also have an elusive in my partners family (also a GG Grandparent) she was a bit of a dodgy lass, and from Lancashire... no idea where she went too, and i've also bought loads of certs :-/
T x
:-D
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MarieCeleste
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5 Dec 2012 20:45 |
Where did divorce come into it?
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Ian
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5 Dec 2012 20:44 |
Yes alviegal - I have all the children born and died. The only 2 surviving were my G Grandmother Eliza (Craven) and her Sister Emma (Cregg).
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Ian
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5 Dec 2012 20:40 |
No divorce - in 1911 they were 68/64 and been married 45 years, so I don't think that is relevant.
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alviegal
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5 Dec 2012 20:37 |
According to the 1911 census, they only had 2 children still living out of 10.
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Ian
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5 Dec 2012 19:09 |
Hi,
For some years I have been trying to establish the deaths of my GG Grandparents - Samuel & Ann Hudson.
Samuel was born Lichfield, Staffs 1842. Ann (Gray) was born 1850 Hertford, Herts. They married 1865 in Kirkheaton, Huddersfield (Ann, aged 15 lied about her age).
They moved around as Samuel was a Railway Labourer/Navvy :
1871 - Blackburn, Lancs 1881 - Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancs 1891 - Horwich, Lancs 1901 - Burnley, Lancs 1911 - Bolton, Lancs
I have purchased a number of Death Certificates but none match my GG Grandparents.
Ann HUDSON 1912 DEATH 65 Salford, Manchester Ann HUDSON 1920 DEATH 71 Padiham, Lancs Ann HUDSON 1920 DEATH 72 Bury, Lancs Ann HUDSON 1922 DEATH 73 Blackburn, Lancs Ann HUDSON 1926 DEATH 76 Stockport, Lancs Ann HUDSON 1927 DEATH 81 Burnley, Lancs Samuel HUDSON 1928 DEATH 73 Burnley, Lancs Samuel HUDSON 1931 DEATH 82 Manchester North
As this is proving to be a little expensive has anybody an idea of how I can move forward to find their deaths without having to purchase dozens of Certificates?
:-(
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