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JOHN JOHNSON ????

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Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Dec 2012 12:08

Can anyone help me find the father of William Johnson William Johnson was born in Ludworth Derbyshire 1835-1838. Cannot find birth certificate for William either. He married Martha Webster 23/02/1862 in Chesterfield Derbyshire John Johnson is shown on marriage certificate as father but cannot find any information about him. PLEASE HELP IF POSSIBLE

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Dec 2012 12:13

Is the father shown as deceased on marriage cert ?

Any occupation given for the father ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Dec 2012 12:14

You wont find a birth cert if he was born pre1837 when registration started.

Many births after 1837 to 1875 werent reg either . In 1875 it became legal to reg a birth with a fine for non or late registration.

Have you tried Family Search site for a possible baptism .

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Dec 2012 12:16

Which census have you found him on ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Dec 2012 12:17

1861 is this him ?

Name: William Johnson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Sudworth, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Staveley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59, 60
Piece: 2536
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10

Class: RG 9; Piece: 2536; Folio: 8; Page: 10; GSU roll: 542986.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Dec 2012 12:20

???
1851 census

Name: William Johnson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Johnson
Mother's Name: Mary Johnson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Horsley, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Horsley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Duffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 2144
Folio: 276
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Johnson 45 cl of church F W K Cotton
Mary Johnson 42
Rhoda Johnson 19 national school mistress
William Johnson 15 pupil teacher
Lewis Wishcombe 23
Sarah Smith 23

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2144; Folio: 276; Page: 6; GSU

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Dec 2012 12:25

Apparently father not shown as deceased on marriage cert and occupation of coal miner

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Dec 2012 12:28

Adrian

Could you post any information directly on your request rather than sending to a member by message. That way everyone that is trying to help you sees it as well.

Good luck,

Maureen

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Dec 2012 12:56

found William in 1861, 1881, 1891, 1901

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Dec 2012 13:01

Who are the witnesses on the marriage cert?
Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Dec 2012 13:04

1891 just for info to show children

Name: William Johnson
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Ludworth, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Staveley
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Staveley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2768
Folio: 125
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
William Johnson 56
Martha Johnson 50 - Walsall
Robert Johnson 18
George H Johnson 16
Albert Johnson 10
Harriett Johnson 8
Sarah A Johnson 2

Class: RG12; Piece: 2768; Folio: 125; Page: 29; GSU roll: 6097878.



1881
Name: William Johnson
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cudworth, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Unstone
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: Ebenezer Cott 5
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Dronfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3445
Folio: 96
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Johnson 46
Martha Johnson 40
John W. Johnson 18
Elizabeth Johnson 16
Arthur Johnson 14
Henrietta Johnson 11
Robert Johnson 9
George Johnson 7
Alice Ann Johnson 4
Albert Johnson 1

Class: RG11; Piece: 3445; Folio: 96; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1341824.

1871
Name: William Johnson
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Rudworth, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hunslet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 4513
Folio: 23
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Johnson 36
Martha Johnson 30
John W Johnson 9
Elizabeth Johnson 6
Arthur Johnson 4
Henrietta Johnson 2

Class: RG10; Piece: 4513; Folio: 23; Page: 4; GSU roll: 848471

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Dec 2012 13:08

Thus is the right area for Ludworth I think:


1841 England Census
Name: William Johnson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Glossop
Hundred: High Peake
County/Island: Derbyshire

Registration district: Hayfield and Glossop
Sub-registration district: Glossop

Sarah Johnson 25
Alice Johnson 5
William Johnson 4
Sarah Johnson 8 Mo
Elizabeth Clarke 15


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Dec 2012 13:10

Are you certain you have the right marriage cert ?

Does it match on maiden name on a birth cert ?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Dec 2012 13:14

?


1851 England Census

Name: William Johnson
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Lodger
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Glossop, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Whitfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England


Registration district: Hayfield
Sub-registration district: Glossop
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b

Name Age
Micah Linley 32
Mary Ann Linley 31
James Linley 11
Ruth Linley 9
Reuben Linley 6
Micah Linley 4
Edward Linley 1
William Johnson 13

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Dec 2012 13:21

yes it matches maiden name. Witnesses on marriage cert william webster and herbert coope