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trying to find her parents

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ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 7 Dec 2012 09:06

Hello a freind has a Dora Martyn born 1907 Bexhill from the census,

has anyone any idea who her parents might be?

Best wishes mfm

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Dec 2012 09:24

It would help if you told us where she was and who she was with ....

Never mind, I've posted the 1911 for reference

SAUNDERS, Albert Head Married22 years M 50 1861 Labourer Dock East Peckham
SAUNDERS, Beatrice Wife F 41 1870 East Peckham
SAUNDERS, Cecil Son Single M 16 1895 Labourer General Mill East Peckham
SAUNDERS, Eva Daughter F 14 1897 School Girl East Peckham
SAUNDERS, Frederick Son M 11 1900 Boy East Peckham
SAUNDERS, Bernard Son M 9 1902 Boy East Peckham
SAUNDERS, Nora Daughter F 7 1904 Girl East Peckham
SAUNDERS, Gilbert Son M 5 1906 Boy East Peckham
MARTYN, Dora Boarder F 3 1908 Nurse Child Box Hill Sussex

RG number: RG14 Piece: 3995
Reference: RG14PN3995 RG78PN152 RD48 SD2 ED14 SN17
Registration District: Malling
Sub District: Wrotham
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: East Peckham

Address: Wharf Cottages East-Peckham Paddock Wood County: Kent

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 7 Dec 2012 09:43

Birth Record Name Dora Martyn
Year of Registration 1907
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Brentford
Registration County Middlesex
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 3A
Volume Page 232

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 7 Dec 2012 09:54

hi do you also think its possibly this one?

mfm

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Dec 2012 10:02

Speculation is not a good idea.

Brentford and Bexhill are not exactly adjacent, although the householder may have been unaware of the child's correct birthplace

If Dora married, and knew who her father was, his name will be on the marriage cert

How did your friend get back to this census entry?

Gins

Gins Report 7 Dec 2012 10:37

Or this one?


Births Sep 1906
-------------------------------------------------------------
Martin Dora Elizabeth E. Grinstead 2b 140


Edit: I think this girl is on the 1911 so maybe not

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 7 Dec 2012 11:05

Thanks both for your input, dora nver married and my freind has her birth date so this might help,

these elusive ancestors,

many thanks mfm

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Dec 2012 11:43

Dora Martyn
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Box Hill,? Sussex
census: 1911 East Peckham,? East-?Peckham Paddock Wood,? Kent,? England


name: Dora Martyn
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 3
birthplace: Box Hill, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Malling
sub-district: Wrotham
parish: East Peckham
county: Kent

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Dec 2012 11:49

That's the one posted at 09;24 today

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Dec 2012 11:55

So what was her actual birth date .you say your friend knows this??

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Dec 2012 12:04

This is the ONLY death which comes anywhere near to the supposed birth info

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Dora Edith I Martyn
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1908
Date of Registration: Apr 1995
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Register Number: C49A
District and Subdistrict: 4161C
Entry number: 99


The birthplace will be recorded on the death cert.........but, only 'as known' to the informant, as, indeed, is the birth date

There is no matching birth in England/Wales, as far as I can see

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 7 Dec 2012 12:24

Thanks reggie, i think i need to ask my freind for more information before we move on,hopefully they can provide me with more,20th April 1907 but where she got this from?


Thankyou for the help

mfm

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Dec 2012 12:57

well this one ties with that birth date
Name: Dora Martyn
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 232

As prev posted by Pollypocket

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Dec 2012 12:58

How is your friend connected?

Does she know when Dora died? And where?

The census and birth fit the date she's given you..............

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 7 Dec 2012 19:52

I will see what else i can find out from her.

The birth cert from brentford might be a go,

Thankyou very much for the help,

mfm

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 8 Dec 2012 10:48

Hello again, can someone please have a look at the 1911 census for a 35 yr old Dora Martyn in Brentford Esssex and tell me whats on it or if possible msg me,


Many thanks Mfm

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Dec 2012 10:51

Not sure why you decided to 'move' Brentford.....lol!

1911 census


Person: MARTYN, Dora Address: 189 the Vale Acton

BRICKWELL, Charlotte Head Married F 65 1846 News Agent Etc Bodmin Cornwall VIEW
BRICKWELL, Emily Daughter Single F 32 1879 Dressmaker Shepherds Bush London VIEW
BRICKWELL, John Edward Foster Son Single M 18 1893 Shorthand Typist Birtley Durham VIEW
MARTYN, Dora Daughter Married F 35 1876 Shop Assistant Kilburn Middx VIEW
WALMSLEY, William Henry Boarder Married M 31 1880 Engineer Electrical Crewe VIEW
WALMSLEY, Ada Boarder Married7 years F 31 1880 Salford Lanc VIEW
WALMSLEY, Eileen Boarder F 2 1909 Salford Lanc VIEW
WALMSLEY, Lilian Maud Boarder F 1 1910 Salford Lanc VIEW
MOORE, John Frederick Boarder Single M 21 1890 Engineer Electrical Maidstone Kent

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Dec 2012 11:01

Now that’s interesting – the image shows that Dora Martyn had been married 5 years, and had 2 children born alive, still living. The information about the marriage and children has been crossed out by the collator.

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 8 Dec 2012 11:04

thanks reggie, i wanted to see this dora martyn, because of the birth record that Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it posted to see if there would be a connection.

Thanks again mfm

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Dec 2012 11:06

Can't you get some facts from your friend?

The woman clearly isn't alive...........so when did she die and where? As asked yesterday..................