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John Lyon, Liverpool

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Richard

Richard Report 7 Dec 2012 13:37

My grandmother, Madge Rowland lived in 18 Derwent Road, Liverpool with John Lyon. Madge gave birth to my mother Danella Rowland in 1929 when she lived in Goth Street, Liverpool. By the time of her second child, Michael, (1931) she had given him the name of Lyon, as she did with her subsequent children: Robin, Rosemary and Brenda.

Madge and John lived in Derwent Road from 1945, until 1947 when Madge moved into 16 to join with Richard Corlett, my grandfather. John continued to live in 18 until around 1950. I have Madge and Richard Corlett living as man and wife: 1948 is the last time that Madge Rowland is listed, thereafter, from 1949, she is listed as Madge Corlett.

I can find no marriage or divorce certifcates for these two.

I believe John Lyon died in 1960 and that he was a ships engineer, but little else. I would love to discover more of my grandfather on this side of the family.

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Dec 2012 14:04

Do you have a DOB for John ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Dec 2012 14:05

So was you mother Danella, John's child ?

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Dec 2012 14:07

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Madge Corlett
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1907
Date of Registration: Apr 1997
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: A54A
District and Subdistrict: 5501A
Entry number: 139


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Madge Rowland
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 368

1911 England Census

Name: Madge Rowland
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bootle, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Bootle cum Linacre
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 49 Lunt Rd Bootle
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Piece: 22436
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Albert Rowland 45
Margaret Ann E Rowland 46
Albert Rowland 21
Wallace Rowland 17
Ernest Rowland 14
Marjorie E Rowland 10
Raymond Rowland 8
Dorothy Rowland 6
Madge Rowland 3

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Dec 2012 14:09

Well, it was LYON she didn't marry, for whatever reason

Marriages Mar 1947 (>99%)
CORLETT Richard Rowlands Liverpool N. 10d 441
Rowlands Madge Corlett Liverpool N. 10d 441

Margee

Margee Report 7 Dec 2012 14:11

This seems to be the marriage to Richard but she's using her maiden name:

Marriages Mar 1947 (>99%)
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CORLETT Richard Rowlands Liverpool N. 10d 441
Rowlands Madge Corlett Liverpool N. 10d 441

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Dec 2012 17:47

PM received ......

Hi Mike,
yes, Danella was John's daughter. As she told me on our only meeting, the family all share the same 'Lyon nose!'

Margee

Margee Report 9 Dec 2012 14:17

PM received:

"Hi Margee, yes, many thanks for this. I actually paid a geneologist this year and he couldn't find any record of the marriage between Corlett and Rowland. So, your expertise is greatly appreciated. Richard"

Actually Reggie had found this marriage before I did which makes you wonder why, if 2 people here found the marriage easily, why didn't a paid genealogist?

My advice has always been "Never pay a so-called professional genealogist. The unpaid helpers here are so much better!"

Richard

Richard Report 9 Dec 2012 14:31

Yes, I think I agree! Mind you, the information provided on the Rowland side gave me some wonderful contacts! Richard