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The genes site has changed since I last used it, can someone tell me how to get the last post to the top of the page so I don't have to keep scrolling down to see my last reply
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just click on the 'post date' at the top of the thread
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When a birth or death is rego'ed, usually the informant goes to the local register's office and gives the details, then signs the register.
At the end of the quarter, the local register makes a copy of all that quarter's events, and sends them to his district superintendent who gathers the copies from his various local registrars together,checks them over, and bundles them up and ships them off to the GRO - formerly in London, but moved within the last 50 y to Southport.
So, apart from a few weeks, there's always 2 copies of these records.
The same would apply for rego office marrs, but for CofE marrs, the local church kept the original register, and copies were made for the local office and the GRO at the end of each quarter.
After 1898, non-conformist churchs were authorized to keep official marr rego's (RCs only from 1980ish on).
When a rego was filled, the local registrar sent it off to his district superintendent.
Church rego's were deposited in some archive, usually the county records office.
I think the only case where all/the sole copy of BMD records were lost occurred in the Channel Islands under German occupation (so not really in the UK).
I read abt this over 50y ago, so the details are hazy, but German solders were billeted in the local archives, and started using registers as heating fuel during a coal shortage. Their officer found out within a week, and stopped that.
Anyways, generally speaking, their are 2 or more copies of English BMDs.
The local copy may be indexed - see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd for what's online.
NB Ulverston (and Lancs in Furness) comes under Cumbria, note no births indexed for Ulverston.
The GRO index is transcribed at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Ancestry use the FreeBMD transcription thru 1915 - there are some incomplete quarters here, viz:
Deaths Dec 1844 (99%) *
Deaths Sep 1879 (99%) *
Deaths Dec 1879 (99%) *
You can try looking up any name on the page, and checking the image to see your guy is/isn't there.
If needs be, you can always use the klunky "view images" link on their homepage to see any page image, transcribed or not, thru 1983.
Just for ref - here's the FreeBMD look ups:
Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
Ribchester Thomas Anslemn Preston 8e 667
Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
Ribchester Margaret Ulverston 8E 666
Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
Ribchester John Ulverstone 8e 636
Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
RIPCHESTER Isabella Annie Blackburn 8e 309
[note misspelling]
Deaths Dec 1868 (>99%)
Ribchester Margaret 3 Preston 8e 348
Deaths Mar 1871 (>99%)
Ribchester Isabella 2 Preston 8e 429
Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)
Ribchester Thomas 29 Sunderland 10a 329
and their local counterparts:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
RIBCHESTER Thomas Anslemn DONALDSON Mary Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/39/110
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
RIBCHESTER Isabella Annie Mellor Preston DONALDSON M/8/5
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
RIBCHESTER Margaret 3 Preston Preston PRES/130/84
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
RIBCHESTER Isabella 2 Broughton Preston BRO/10/54
Surname Forename(s) Year of Death
RIBCHESTER Thomas 1873 BoR*
[BoR=Book of Remembrance, pointed to April 3, but I didn't see an entry for him - entries all too recent]
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I know this is not what you were asking. You say his birth certificate says he was John not Thomas. I wonder if whoever registered him got mixewd up as his brother John was still alive
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1838
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
RIBCHESTER John Preston Preston WINSTANLEY PRES/3/74
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1843
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
RIBCHESTER John Anselon Preston Preston WINSTANLEY PRES/23/22
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1845
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
RIBCHESTER John 7 Preston Preston PRES/24/42
1841 census
John Rebchester 45 -watchmas at mill (flour)
Alise Rebchester 45
Elizabeth Rebchester 20
Catherine Rebchester 15
Mary Rebchester 15
James Rebchester 14
Ann Rebchester 13
Alice Rebchester 11
Ellen Rebchester 9
John Rebchester 3
all children up to John born in Thornton (John working / previously worked at Thornton Mill???)
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and I assume you have this?
Marriage: 2 Feb 1820 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
John Ribchester - (X), Husbandman of this Parish
Alice Winstanley - (X), Spinster of this Parish
Witness: James Morginson; John Fairclough
Married by Banns by: R. Bowness Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1834, Page 67, Entry 200
Source: LDS Film 1526408
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Thanks mgnv and lancashire ann
It is really looking like the Thomas Ribchester who died in Durham 1873 is our Thomas.
The certificates office have offered to do a check on the deaths in Lancashire for me just in case some records maybe missing etc.
John Ribchester (father) was the one who registered the birth for John Anselon Ribchester.
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