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1841 Census - Francis & Hannah Smith

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Marcus

Marcus Report 12 Dec 2012 09:05

Hi,

I am trying to find Francis & Hannah Smith from Bucklebury area of Berkshire on the 1841 Census for a friend.

Cannot seem to find them. Possible daughters may be with them - Mary Ann 1818, Harriet 1823, Sarah 1826 & Charlotte 1828.

Any help most welcome.

Marcus ;-)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 12 Dec 2012 09:10

There is this, but doesn't seem likely does it! When was Francis born?

1841 England Census
Name: Frances Smith
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Bucklebury
Hundred: Reading
County/Island: Berkshire

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Bucklebury

Frances Smith 60
Hannah Smith 65
James Smith 25


Marcus

Marcus Report 12 Dec 2012 09:19

Thanks Brummiejan,

I have 2 bapts for Francis Smith - Oct 1779 & June 1781. Different parents/families, but both in Bucklebury Parish.

Just couldn't find him on 1841 Census.

Thanks again,

Marcus

Marcus

Marcus Report 12 Dec 2012 09:26

Adding to my post above - Can anyone find their son John bapt 1820 Bucklebury on 1841 Census?

Many thanks,

Marcus

Catherine

Catherine Report 12 Dec 2012 09:39

Difficult to be sure which one is him in 1841, but there's a good chance that this could be him in 1851:-

1851 England Census about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Smith
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bucklebury, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Bucklebury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Bucklebury
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 1691
Folio: 175
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 36
Jane Smith 36
Thomas Smith 6
Ann Smith 7
Mary Smith 4
John Smith 4
Jane Smith 11 Mo
................................................................

Same in 1861:-

1861 England Census about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
[Abt 1815]
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Bucklebury, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Bucklebury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Bucklebury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Piece: 742
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 41
Jane Smith 46
Ann Smith 16
Mary Smith 14
John Smith 13
Jane Smith 10
Emma Smith 6

Catherine

Catherine Report 12 Dec 2012 09:46

There is this one?

1841 England Census about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Bradfield
Hundred: Theale
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Ag.Lab.

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Bucklebury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 29
Book: 3
Folio: 8
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 25
Mary Smith 30
Hannah Smith 5
George Smith 2
Charles Smith 6 Mo

Marcus

Marcus Report 12 Dec 2012 09:59

Thanks Catherine,

That's John & co on 1851 & 1861, great!! Not too sure about 1841, though it is a possible one at that!!

Marcus

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 12 Dec 2012 10:17

It's possible this is the marriage for John and Jane:

Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%)
BAILEY William Bradfield 6 255
HANCOCK Jane Bradfield 6 255
HITCHCOCK Mary Bradfield 6 255
SMITH John Bradfield 6 255

In which case??

1841 England Census
Name: Jane Hancock
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Aldermaston
Hundred: Theale
County/Island: Berkshire

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Mortimer

John Boulay 15
Charlotte Breakstone 20
Mary Hitchcock 25
Jane Hancock 25
Mary Butler 15
William Baily 20
William Baily 20
William River 15
Charles Wimer 15
Henry Bunce 20
Richie Ireson 25
William Diggins 14
George Hufrey 12
George Herbert 20

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 12 Dec 2012 10:27

I did sort of wonder if the 1841 found by Catherine was actually him - this might be George and Charles with their mother 1851??? Very speculative! Anmd note Esther's birth year.

1851 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Carton
[Mary Ann Carter]
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Carton
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bradfield, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradfield
County/Island: Berkshire

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Bucklebury

George Lay 80
Joseph Carton 42
Mary Ann Carton 46
George Smith 12 son
Charles Smith 10 son
Esther Smith 5
Charlotte Carter 3
Christopher Lay 21

Marriages Dec 1845 (not the only names on page)
CARTER Joseph Bradfield 6 275
Smith Mary Ann Bradfield 6 275

Jan


Marcus

Marcus Report 12 Dec 2012 10:31

Thanks again Brummiejan.

Alas I have to pop out for a bit, so won't be online for a while.

Do keep looking - I do appreciate ALL your help.

Marcus

Catherine

Catherine Report 12 Dec 2012 20:54

Hi Marcus,
Don't forget that 1841 doesn't give the relationships of the household members, so the 1841 I posted may be him.
The Mary Ann with him is not necessarily his wife, it may be his sister, or sister in law or just a visitor, or even just a friend so I wouldn't dismiss it entirely.

Marcus

Marcus Report 13 Dec 2012 10:45

Hi Catherine,

Thanks for your message, I do understand what you say about Mary Ann who may be just a visitor etc., it makes sense.

But because of what info I have already, I am unsure of it being the right entry. I am not dismissing it just yet.

Marcus