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i seem to have hit a brick wall, and wondered if anyone has any ideas. i have john lock 1786 on the 1841 census, living in wiston, with some of his children including a son george 1816 who is from my line of locks. however there seems to be an awful lot of john locks in suffolk at that time, some trees suggest he has a father john lock c1760 and a brother james c1781 but there are several different names of wives, --though the general consensus is john 1786 married a "mary" and john 1760 married a "sarah"-- both ladies seem to have about 4 different surnames.. there are john locks marrying various sarahs and marys in the parish records on this site and the latter day saints site, but how can i find out which johns, mary and sarah are the ones i am looking for? i am still fairly new to this so may have missed something completely obvious.. any help would be very much appreciated :-)

hi there - how did you get back to him - can you give us a few definites in your tree before you got as far back as him

is this son charles
name: Charles Lock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 Mar 1817
baptism/christening place: Archdeaconry of Sudbury, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Lock
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C13225-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 951463
reference number:

parents ?????????????????
groom's name: John Lock
groom's birth date: 1786
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 21
bride's name: Mary Cambridge
bride's birth date: 1786
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 21
marriage date: 28 Nov 1807
marriage place: Saint Peter Ipswich, Suffolk, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I07395-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595863
reference number: item 4 p 80

still alive in 1871 ????
LOCK, John Lodger M 90 1781 Suffolk VIEW
-, - Not Known M 65 1806 Not Known VIEW

Piece: 1715

Folio: 114

Page: 25

Registration District: Sudbury

Civil Parish: Nayland

Municipal Borough:

Address: Leavenheath, Nayland

County: Suffolk

1851 ????????????
LOCK, John Head Widower M 69 1782 Farm Labourer
Polstead, Suffolk VIEW

Piece: 1788

Folio: 298

Page: 10

Registration District: Sudbury

Civil Parish: Wissington or Wiston

Municipal Borough:

Address: Leavenheath Locks Lane, Wissington Or Wiston

County: Suffolk


1861 ????????????????
LOCK, John Lodger Widower M 80 1781 Agricultural Labourer
Polstead, Suffolk VIEW

Piece: 1128

Folio: 107

Page: 22

Registration District: Sudbury

Civil Parish: Wissington

Municipal Borough:

Address: Locks Lane, Wissington

County: Suffolk

baptism for above if it could be him
name: John Lock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Feb 1783
baptism/christening place: Polstead, Suffolk, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Lock
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah Lock
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04371-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 887394
reference number: P 10
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hi maddie, yes that is charles :-) and also john his father, but the marriage i am not sure about as there is also a mary stanard and a mary deaves who could be her... and sarah could be jeffrys, mann or aggis, depending which site you look at, so you see i am stumped haha we were awkward even back then :-) anncardiff: charles is the last definate i have, with a father john on the christening details, and he would seem to be the same john as detailed on the above census's. thanks so much for the replies by the way :-)

have to pop out now, school run xx

Burial
First name(s): Mary
Last name: LOCK
Date of burial 1 Dec 1839
Age at death: 62
Calculated year of birth: 1777
Place of burial Wissington
Dedication: St Mary
County: Suffolk
Wissington St Mary:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage 1539 - 1902
Data provider: Suffolk Family History Society

First name(s): Charles
Last name: LOCK
Date of burial 19 May 1881
Age at death: 65
Calculated year of birth: 1816
Place of burial Wissington
Dedication: St Mary
County: Suffolk

(above on Find My Past)

Chris :)

Day:17
Month:Feb
Year:1806
Groom forenames:John
Groom surname:Lock
Groom parish:
Groom condition:
Bride forenames:Mary
Bride surname:Eady
Bride parish:
Bride condition:
Place:Wissington
County:Suffolk
Record source:Suffolk Marriage Index



1841
LOCK, John M 55 1786 Suffolk
LOCK, Charles M 25 1816 Suffolk
LOCK, George M 20 1821 Suffolk
LOCK, Harriet F 15 1826 Suffolk
Piece: 1012
Book/Folio: 3
Page: 1
Registration District: Sudbury
Civil Parish: Wiston
Municipal Borough:
Address: Wiston
County: Suffolk

John Lock and Mary, his wife, and John, aged six years, Mary, aged five years, James, aged three years, Eliza, aged two years and Maria, aged six months, their children, from Wissington to Stoke-by-Nayland. 28 May 1812

(above if related, below link, from google search)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=174-fb80&cid=-1#-1

Chris :)

Thankyou chris i will look as soon as i get home :-)

chris: well i looked up mary eady, in some transcripts she is mary cady, (same dates, places etc so am fairly sure is the same lady) but she does seem the most likely of all the marys to be my gt x? grandmother, wife of the younger john, going on the timings and places, so thankyou very much for that - i hadnt even seen her before!!
am still stuck with the elder john c1760 and sarah, but at least (i hope) one mystery solved! :-D

Day:27
Month:Aug
Year:1822
Groom Forename:John
Groom Surname:Lock
Groom's parish:
Groom's condition:Widower
Bride Forename:Mary
Bride Surname:Deaves
Bride's Parish:
Bride's condition:Widow
Place:Wissington
County:Suffolk
Country:England
Record source:Suffolk Marriage Index (1813-37)

Burial (first wife Mary)
First name(s): Mary
Last name: LOCK
Date of burial 30 Apr 1820
Age at death: 34
Calculated year of birth: 1786
Place of burial Wissington
Dedication: St Mary
County: Suffolk

Chris :)

Burial
First name(s): John
Last name: LOCK
Date of burial 22 Apr 1783
Age at death: Infant
Calculated year of birth: 1783
Place of burial Polstead
Dedication: St Mary
County: Suffolk

thanks chris, i had looked at mary deaves but thought the wedding date seemed very late considering charles was born 1816/17, but if his first wife was mary cady/eady and mary cady had died, i wonder if he had married another mary (deaves) later on.. hmmm.. john is turning out to be quite the enigma - i have been stuck on him ever since i started doing this tree back in august.. too many john locks in one place haha!

also just noticed, charles had a brother george, born around the same time the first wife mary died.. poor family :-( if i am thinking along the right track, how awful for them..

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 (Ancestry)
Name: George Lock
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Apr 1820
Christening Place: Wissington, Suffolk, England
Father's Name: John Lock
Mother's Name: Mary

Name: Charles Lock
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 9 Mar 1817
Christening Place: Suffolk, England
Father's Name: John Lock
Mother's Name: Mary

Name: Anne Lock
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Feb 1815
Christening Place: Suffolk, England
Father's Name: John Lock
Mother's Name: Mary

(can see the above)

Chris :)

oh dear how awful - the christening and burial were on the same day! poor john and family.

by the way thankyou so so so much for all of you taking the time to help me on this one.. i am so surprised how helpful people are on this site, and i really do appreciate it :-) x