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Just spoke to my wife's nan she said from what she remembers John said his son was around 10 when John met my wife's mum so the age works out rite I think ill take risk and get both cert.

Sorry she doesn't I may order both certificates and see thanks

There is a birth recorded in Bellshill,Lanarkshire for a Hugh Dylan Hayes born in 1975.
Bellshill is fairly near Hamilton.
Both towns are in Lanarkshire
Again you are unable to access this birth certificate on line & it may be a false trail
Does your wife's mother not know the frst name of John Hayes wife?
It could help.

I'm not shore his wide was from Portsmouth I believe she was in Scotland. He was never married to my wife's mum. We bolivar he was married to another woman before he met my wife's mum. We know his unknown sons first name was Hugh or hughy I suspected with Hayes surname middle names unknown he would have been born before my wife so before 1986. We have just found this name out and know nothing els a bought this other child (Hugh) of John Hayes Hugh may have been born in Scotland but we don't no

His place of birth was also Hamilton and I've been told the only John Hayes around that time was born in 1944 so ill look at the records for John Hayes born 1944 for his death if I can find out each of them deaths and then were each of them were born wont that narrow them down?? And he had no middle name it's just John Hayes

If his wife was born in Portsmouth, you could try looking for a marriage in that area for him.

Rose

Was he still living with his wife when your wife was born?

Is there an address for him on her birth cert? You could try looking at old electoral rolls to see who else was living at that address.

Rose

there is this one with now middle name
Name: John Hayes
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1945
Date of Registration: Apr 1998
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Register Number: 87A
District and Subdistrict: 2281
Entry number: 94

They are looking at a birth 1945 but there are a few of them as well !

A birth cert wont tell you if someone has died!

not being defeaist but....How many of these can be eliminated?

Anthony John Hayes 1935 Dec 2002 East Surrey Surrey
Christopher John Hayes 1935 Oct-Nov-Dec 1974 Hounslow Greater London
John Hayes 1935 Feb 1986 Nottingham Nottinghamshire
John Hayes 1935 Feb 2005 Stockton Durham
John Hayes abt 1935 Jan-Feb-Mar 1935 Dudley Staffordshire
John Hayes abt 1935 Jan-Feb-Mar 1935 Grimsby Lincolnshire
John Hayes abt 1935 Oct-Nov-Dec 1935 Warrington Lancashire
John Hayes abt 1935 Oct-Nov-Dec 1935 Leigh Lancashire
John Hayes abt 1935 Oct-Nov-Dec 1935 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
John Frances Hayes 1935 Oct 1992 Manchester Lancashire
John James Hayes 1935 Sep 1995 Liverpool Lancashire
John Joseph Hayes 1935 May 2004 Croydon London, Surrey
John Michael Hayes 1935 Dec 1988 Bromley Kent
Ronald John Hayes 1935 Nov 1991 Cambridge Cambridgeshire
John Hayes 1936 Jan 2004 Liverpool Lancashire
John Hayes 1936 Mar 2005 Brentwood Essex
John Hayes abt 1936 Jan-Feb-Mar 1936 Stepney London
John Hayes abt 1936 Oct-Nov-Dec 1936 Easington Durham
John C Hayes abt 1936 Jan-Feb-Mar 1936 Guisborough Yorkshire North Riding
John D Hayes abt 1936 Apr-May-Jun 1936 Brighton Sussex
John Edward Hayes 1936 Nov 1986 Macclesfield Cheshire
John Herbert Hayes 1936 Oct-Nov-Dec 1977 Surrey Mid Eastern Surrey
John T Hayes abt 1936 Jan-Feb-Mar 1936 Houghton Durham
Edward John Hayes 1937 Aug 1993 Sefton North Merseyside
John Hayes 1937 Apr 2003 Enfield Middlesex
John Hayes 1937 Apr 2003 Enfield Middlesex
John Hayes 1937 Oct 2005 Sunderland Durham
John Joseph Hayes 1937 Dec 2002 Lewisham London
John P Hayes abt 1937 Jan-Feb-Mar 1937 Luton Bedfordshire
John W A Hayes abt 1937 Jul-Aug-Sep 1938 Poplar London
John Hayes 1938 Oct 2005 Keighley Yorkshire
John Hayes abt 1938 Jan-Feb-Mar 1938 Bromley Kent
John Hayes abt 1938 Apr-May-Jun 1939 Rother Valley Yorkshire West Riding
John Hayes abt 1938 Apr-May-Jun 1941 Doncaster Yorkshire West Riding
John Hayes 1938 Jul-Aug-Sep 1983 Chesterfield Derbyshire
John Anthony Hayes 1938 Nov 1996 Kensington and Chelsea London
John J Hayes abt 1938 Apr-May-Jun 1938 Warrington Lancashire
John M Hayes abt 1938 Oct-Nov-Dec 1938 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
John Patrick Hayes 1938 Sep 2004 Tameside Greater Manchester
John Richard F Hayes 1938 May 1989 Abingdon Berkshire, Oxfordshire
John Robert Hayes 1938 Oct 2000 Nottingham Nottinghamshire
John T Hayes abt 1938 Jul-Aug-Sep 1938 Bristol Gloucestershire

If its the only one around that time it will probably be him. With certificate I'm hopping to find if he has died as what my wife has been told doesn't make much seance he may have died in England as wife was born in Portsmouth. I also no he was married when he met my wife's mum to someone els and we know he had at least 1 child before my wife. If we could find out if he has died or any info abought marrege or the at least the 1 other child that we know he had it would be really good I will order the certificate tomorrow and may add another post if I need help with the rest thanks to every one for help

Well, it certainly won't tell him if it is the right one but it may enable him to follow the parents back and find living relatives e.g.possible brother James ??

In any case, it looks like the only lead to follow at the moment?

Dea x

With the cert in your hand, how will you know its the right chap?

Thanks I will order birth certificate thanks for the help

I am afraid that if you wish to find out if this John Hayes is the person that you are looking for you have no option but to order a birth certificate.
The exact date of birth is not available on line as the birth is less than 100 years old.
There is no other John Hayes recorded birth in Hamilton in 1944
There is a James Hayes also born there in 1944.
I do not see any death recorded for a John Hayes born in 1944 in the Scottish Records up to and including 2011

Thanks was that the only one around that time and did u manage to get any other info? like date of birth. thanks I will try and get birth certificate

There is a recorded birth for a John Hayes born in Hamilton,Scotland (1944)
You will be unable to view a copy of this birth certificate on line.
You will have to order a copy from Edinburgh.
This will give you a possible starting point in your search.

Regards,

Dougie

He was only in her life for first couple of months that's why she never really met him we worked out 1945 from how old we were told he was when she was born ;-)

I'm assuming there was no marriage, in which case, you can't get info about his birth year, and the name is too common to hope to hit on the right one

He must, at least, be aware of your wife's existence, as, if he was not married to her mother, he would have had to attend when the birth was registered, or else his name would not be on the cert.........

If he married her mum then a marriage cert could give you more info