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Lesley

Lesley Report 18 Dec 2012 00:14

Could anyone help me find the parents of Matilda Smith b 1847 Hitchen, Herts. Married to William Barnes b 1846 please. Also the maiden name of William Barnes mother.
Thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 00:36

Which census have you found them on ?

Where and when was William born ?

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Barnes William Gutheridge Hitchin 3a 399
MOULDEN Joseph Hitchin 3a 399
Smith Matilda Hitchin 3a 399
Starr Mary Hitchin 3a 399

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 00:39

Is that the right marriage as you make no mention of a middle name ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 00:50

1871 in the right area and married ?

Name: William Barnes
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Hitchin
Town: Hitchin
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 1368
Folio: 16
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
William Mead 38
Louisa Mead 38
Charles Mead 17
Martha Mead 13
James Rockwood 18
William Barnes 27

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Dec 2012 00:51

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William Barnes
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1848 Hitchin,? Hertfordshire
residence: 1871 Devonport,? Stoke Damerel,? Devonshire,? England


name: William Barnes
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 23
relationship to head of household: Private
birthplace: Hitchin, Hertfordshire
record type: Institution
registration district: Stoke Damerel
sub-district: St Aubyn
event parish: Stoke Damerel
county: Devonshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Dec 2012 00:54

William Barnes
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1844 Stockport,? Cheshire
residence: 1871 Hitchin,? Hitchin,? Hertfordshire,? England


name: William Barnes
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 27
relationship to head of household: Lodger
birthplace: Stockport, Cheshire
registration district: Hitchin
sub-district: Hitchin
event parish: Hitchin
county: Hertfordshire

Lesley

Lesley Report 18 Dec 2012 00:58

William was born in 1846 in Weston, Herts and they were married in 1865. 1861 census he was working with his brother Charles as a groom

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:00

1881 just for ref

Name: William Barnes
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda Barnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: St Albans St Peter
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: L Colney
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: St Albans
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1432
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Barnes 36
Matilda Barnes 38
Sarah A. Smith 17
Tom Barnes 15
Mary L. Barnes 13
John Barnes 9
Martha M. Barnes
Isiah Barnes 5

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:01

1871 ??

Name: Sarah A Smith
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Weston, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Weston
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 1366
Folio: 39
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
William Smith 63 - Langley, Essex
Deborough Smith 63
Sarah A Smith 7

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:04

Name: Deborah Tompdon
Gender: Female
Spouse's Name: William Smith
Marriage Date: 20 Jun 1830
Marriage Place: Weston, Hertfordshire, England


Name: Deborah Tompson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 4 Sep 1808
Christening Place: Weston, Hertfordshire, England
Father's Name: Richard Tompson
Mother's Name: Sarah

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:07

Who does Matilda name as her father on the marriage cert ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:10

1851 ?
Name: William Barns
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin Barns
Mother's Name: Mary Barns
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Weston, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Weston
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Piece: 1709
Folio: 181
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Barns 26
Mary Barns 27
William Barns 5
Charles Barns 2

Class: HO107; Piece: 1709; Folio: 181; Page: 13; GSU roll: 193617.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:11

Name: William Gutteridge Baines
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 4 Jan 1846
Christening Place: Weston, Hertfordshire, England
Father's Name: Benjamin Baines
Mother's Name: Mary

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:13

Name: Mary Ann Gutteridge
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Jun 1825
Christening Place: Weston, Hertfordshire, England
Father's Name: William Gutteridge
Mother's Name: Elizabeth


Name: Mary Ann Gutteridge
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1845
Registration district: Hitchin
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 6
Page Number: 669


Shows as possible groom of Benjamin Baines ??




Name: Benjamin Barns
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1 Feb 1824
Christening Place: Weston, Hertfordshire, England
Father's Name: James Barns
Mother's Name: Ann

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:34

1851 keep looking at this one but not sure her father is Edward ?
Name: Matilda Smith
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Edward Stanford
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Graveley, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Little Wymondley
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 1709
Folio: 320
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Stanford 54
Edward Stanford 20
Matilda Smith 3

Class: HO107; Piece: 1709; Folio: 320; Page: 14; GSU roll: 193617.

1861 this time shown as niece
Name: Matilda Smith
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Graveley, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Little Wymondley
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 817
Folio: 124
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Stanford 66
Matilda Smith 12

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 01:41

Clutching at straws with this suggestion

Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
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Arnold Mary Anne Hitchen 6 813
Bluffill William Hitchin 6 813
Farey John Hitchin 6 813
Lincoln George Hitchin 6 813
Paine Sarah Anne Hitchin 6 813
Smith James Hitchin 6 813
Stanford Emma Hitchin 6 813
WATSON Charlotte Hitchin 6 813



1841
Name: Ann Stanford
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Little Wymondley
Hundred: Broadwater
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 437
Book: 13
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Stanford 40
Emma Stanford 20
Edward Stanford 10

Class: HO107; Piece: 437; Book: 13; Civil Parish: Little Wymondley; County: Hertfordshire; Enumeration District: 21; Folio: 8; Page: 9; Line: 6; GSU roll: 288826.


1851?
Name: Emma Smith
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Smith
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Little Wymondley
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 1709
Folio: 319
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
James Smith 34 - occupation of carpenter
Emma Smith 30

Class: HO107; Piece: 1709; Folio: 319; Page: 12; GSU roll: 193617.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Dec 2012 08:55

Burial (Find My Past)

First name(s): Edward
Last name: STANFORD
Date of burial 17 Dec 1840
Age at death: 47
Calculated year of birth: 1793
Place of burial Little Wymondley
Dedication: St Mary the Virgin
County: Hertfordshire
Little Wymondley St Mary the Virgin:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage 1800 - 1851
Data provider: Hertfordshire Family & Population History


1851
STANFORD, Ann Head Widow F 54 1797 Tea Dealer
Kimpton, Hertfordshire
STANFORD, Edward Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Straw Plat Dealer
Gt Wymondley, Hertfordshire
SMITH, Matilda Grand Daughter F 3 1848 Butchers Daughter
Graveley, Hertfordshire
Piece: 1709
Folio: 320
Page: 14
Registration District: Hitchin
Civil Parish: Little Wymondley
Municipal Borough:
Address: Village, Little Wymondley
County: Hertfordshire

(looking again at 1851, wonder if Burial above, was husband of Ann)

Chris :)


Ed Stanford of Great Wymondley Ann Peacock Ippollitts 22 Jan 1818

(possible Marriage, from below link)


https://www.hertsdirect.org/ufs/ufsmain?formid=HALS_INDEXES


1871 ?
BARNS, William G Head M 24 1847 Hertfordshire (Weston) Soldier
BARNS, Matilda Wife F 25 1846 Not Known
BARNS, Jesse Son M 5 1866 Hertfordshire
BARNS, Mary Louisa Daughter F 2 1869 Hertfordshire
Piece: 2131
Folio: 73
Page: 59
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel
Municipal Borough: Devonport
Address: Pembroke Street, Stoke Damerel, Devonport
County: Devonshire


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Josiah Barnes
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1877
Christening Date: 5 Oct 1879
Christening Place: Colney, Hertfordshire, England
Age at Christening: 2
Father's Name: William Gutteridge Barnes
Mother's Name: Matilda

Mariage
Name: Martha Matilda Barnes
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1878
Age: 23
Father's Name: William Guttridge Barnes
Spouse's Name: James John Mayes
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Father's Name: James Edward Mayes
Marriage Date: 9 Nov 1901
Marriage Place: Colney, Hertfordshire, England

Marriage
Name: Beatrice Barnes
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1882
Age: 20
Father's Name: William Guttridge Barnes
Spouse's Name: Fredrick William Toms
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: Frederick Toms
Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1902
Marriage Place: Frogmore, Hertfordshire, England

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 11:22

Still need to know if Matilda gives a name for her father on marriage cert

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Dec 2012 11:51

(agrees with GB there, on the need to know!)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1315485

Chris :)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2012 12:47

Well that was a waste of my time then

I do wish members would keep to one thread per family !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!