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Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 09:59

I am trying to find out when my great grandfather arrived with his family in South Australia.
I have searched passenger lists with no luck.
This is the information I have:
My g/grandfather was William Lee born 1885 in the UK.
His parents were Eliza and Charles Lee.
His siblings are unknown.
He is listed on the 1891 UK Census'
He was married in South Australia in 1908.
So he must have come to Australia with his family between 1892 and 1907.
Thanks so very much in advance for any help that you can give me.

Gins

Gins Report 24 Dec 2012 10:04

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: William Lee <<<Apprentice
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 14
Port of Departure: New York
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 17 Jan 1898
Vessel Name: Rahane
Origin Location: British

Do you have any other info, such as where he was born

Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 10:10


He was possibly born in London, England.
And they most probably would have arrived in Adelaide, South Australia.
Thanks

Gins

Gins Report 24 Dec 2012 10:12

Is this him?


1891 England Census
about William Lee
Name: William Lee
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Lee
Mother's Name: Eliza Lee
Gender: Male
Where born: Wandsworth, London, England

Civil parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 449
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Lee 45
Eliza Lee 44
Charles Lee 18
Arthur Lee 10
William Lee 7
Elizabeth Lee 4
Daisy Lee 5


Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 10:23

Yes this is him and his family.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 10:34

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Charles Lee
Name: William Charles Lee
BORN 8th Nov 1884***************
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Dec 1884
Father's Name: William Charles Lee
Mother's Name: Eliza Lee
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea Christ Church
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Flip

Flip Report 24 Dec 2012 10:40

I think this is brother & mother in 1911:

Eliza Lee
Age in 1911: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation to Head: Mother
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Tring, Hertford, England
Civil parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Groton Rd, Earlsfield, Wandsworth S W
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: NONE
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: Sprinfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 2378
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Lee 40
Eliza Lee 64 << widow, born Tring. Has had 11 children, 5 still living

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 10:47

Charles Lee born Hants Basingstoke and Eliza born HertsTring.

Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 10:51

This could be the wrong family.
I say this because my great-great grandfather Charles Lee did not die until 1929 (he died age 71).
So Eliza was not a widow in 1911.
Also she had already purchased some land in North Adelaide, South Australia by 1911.
Eliza died in 1933 aged 78. So unless the census is incorrect the above Eliza is about 10 years older.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 10:55

Flip can you find the family on the 1901 as I can't.

Flip

Flip Report 24 Dec 2012 10:58

You said in your OP that William was on the 1891 census - could you post the details please?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 10:59

Kerry we can only look up for you if you give us all the info you have. It would have been better for you to have put that in your first post. It helps us get a picture of your family as we are working blind on this.

Mel

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 11:04

Is this your family in 1891 please?

If so then this is the Eliza on the 1911 census.

1891 England Census
about Eliza Lee
Name: Eliza Lee
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Lee
Gender: Female
Where born: Tring, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 449
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Lee 45
Eliza Lee 44
Charles Lee 18
Arthur Lee 10
William Lee 7
Elizabeth Lee 4
Daisy Lee 5


Flip

Flip Report 24 Dec 2012 11:04

Mel, I can't find them in 1901 either - but it looks like it's the wrong family now, if they were already in Aus. by 1911

Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 11:19


Charles Lee would have been born in 1858 (as he died aged 71 in 1929)
Eliza would have been born in 1855 (as she died in 1933 aged 78).
So I am very sorry but I think we have the wrong family.
I know that I have the correct years of death as I have visited their graves.
I have searched records of births in Australia for William but without any success.
William died in 1967.
I have no further information on the family.
The first bit of information about William Lee in Australia is that he got married in 1908.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 14:28

Got called away...........sorry

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 14:29

Kerry if you have the marriage cert does it say what his fathers occupation was please?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2012 17:54

Is this Charles' death? (Might give us something to work back from)

LEE. — On the 7th March, at Adelaide, Charles, the dearly beloved husband of E. Lee, 73 Margaret Street, North Adelaide, aged 71 years.

LEE. — The Friends of the late Mr. CHARLES LEE are informed that his Funeral (motor) will Leave his Residence, 78 Margaret Street, North Adelaide, on FRIDAY AFTERNOON, at 4.15 p.m., for the North Road Cemetery. GEO. DOWNS & SON. Undertakers, Jeffcott street, North Adelaide. Phone 786.

AUSTRALIAN TRAMWAY EMPLOYEES' ASSOCIATION, S.A. BRANCH. -
MEMBERS are Informed that the Funeral of our late comrade, C. LEE, will leave his late Residence, 78 Margaret Street, North Adelaide, on FRIDAY, at 4.15 p.m., for North Road Cemetery.
T. ADAMS, Vice-Presldent. J SORRELL, Act. Secretary.

Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 21:00

Thank-you so much everyone.
The above information is definitely "my" Charles Lee.
They owned 2 houses at 76 and 78 Margaret Street, North Adelaide.
Their son William lived next door in No.76 with his wife Fanny and their family.
I do not have (and have never seen) William Lee's marriage certificate.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 21:44

Aha here is that family on the 1901.

1901 England Census
about William Lee
Name: William Lee
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Eliza Lee
Gender: Male
Where born: Earlsfield, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Piece: 485
Folio: 70
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Lee 56
Arthur A Lee 21
William Lee 19
Elizabeth Lee 15
Daisey Lee 19


so This one was still in England in 1901 and Eliza is a widow so not your one.