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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Jan 2013 12:08

?????????

Can't see the actual page.

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Wm Lee
Name: Wm Lee
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 21
Arrival Date: 3 Jan 1902
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Fremantle, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Ormuz
Nationality: English

Kerry

Kerry Report 9 Jan 2013 11:23

Thanks very much for your input and help.
But again I think this is the wrong Eliza Lee.
William Lee was not born until 1885.
And their destination and place of arrival was Australia...

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Jan 2013 11:16

I have found this but not sure about it. Eliza is travelling with a Wm Lee aged 18 a student. Eliza is down as a Matron but I think that is because of her age??

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Eliza Lee
Name: Eliza Lee
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1890
Birth Date: abt 1848
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: Lpool, England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: New York
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Etruria
Search Ship Database: Search the Etruria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Kerry

Kerry Report 9 Jan 2013 08:05



Thanks for the advice Flip. I will take your advice,

Flip

Flip Report 31 Dec 2012 10:57

I can't check the ships passenger list as it doesn't appear to be there on Ancestry. Just a suggestion, but try amending your title to include Australia - that way someone with more experience in researching there may be able to help.

Kerry

Kerry Report 31 Dec 2012 10:10

Thanks for your help again Flip.
This seems to be the right Eliza Lee.
But there seems to be no record of her son William or husband Charles arriivng with her.
I think it would have been unusual for a married woman to have travelled to Australia without her husband and child in 1885.

Flip

Flip Report 27 Dec 2012 12:18

There's this one on Ancestry, but no image to view - maybe someone with better Australian knowledge could check it out?

Eliza Lee
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Age: 30
Arrival Date: 8 Aug 1885
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Orient
Nationality: English

Kerry

Kerry Report 27 Dec 2012 12:10

Has anybody been able to discover when and on what ship Eliza, Charles and William Lee came to Australia???

Kerry

Kerry Report 25 Dec 2012 08:33


Thank you . I think you have the right couple too. I cannot find William Lee'e birth records (1885) in Australia. So I am assuming he was born in the UK. This would put this couple as coming to Australia sometime between his birth in 1885 and 1891.

Flip

Flip Report 25 Dec 2012 08:09

Mel, I think you've probably got the right marriage- the ages tie up and nothing to do with the other family we posted. If the 1881 census details are correct, and I think they are, then I can't find them as a couple after their marriage so wonder if they went to Australia between 1881 & 1891??

Eliza Underwood is with her parents Joseph & Helen (or Ellen) in 1861/71.

Flip

Flip Report 25 Dec 2012 07:44

Bearing in mind the place of birth for May (or Mary) & Emma was Pentlow, Essex, I think this is Eliza:

Eliza Underwood
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Pentflow, Essex, England

Civil parish: Hampstead
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 51 Priory Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cook Domestic

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 172
Folio: 34
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
George Moseley 51
Jane Moseley 50
Georgiana Fraser 72
Martha Mitchell 35
Eliza Underwood 25 <<<
Elizabeth Madle 24

Flip

Flip Report 25 Dec 2012 07:31

This is the Charles for the above marriage - address is the same as on marriage cert:

Charles Lee
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Welford, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 39 Quilter St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Traveller

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Hackney Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 413
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Carter 26
Emma Carter 30
May Underwood 21 <<sister, but think it should be s-i-l (single)
Charles Underwood 14 <<nephew
Charles Lee 22 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
John Collin 19

Added - the witnesses at marriage were John H Collins and May Underwood.

Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 22:35

This must be a different Lee family.
Perhaps there were 2 Lee Families with the same Chrsitian names in London?
The original Lee family discussed in this thread already had 2 children (aged around 9) by 1881.....
But as the ages are just about right they could be my g/g grandparents.....
I've estimated that Charles was born around 1858.....
Many thanks for your help....

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 21:53

Here is their marriage. It is so annoying as here this Charles is the right age.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Charles Lee
Name: Charles Lee
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Eliza Underwood
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jul 1881
Parish: Bethnal Green St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Lee
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Underwood
Register Type: Parish Register

Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 21:48

Yes Eliza was not a widow.
And the ages for Eliza and Charles do not match.
This one is a bit of a puzzle isn't it?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 21:44

Aha here is that family on the 1901.

1901 England Census
about William Lee
Name: William Lee
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Eliza Lee
Gender: Male
Where born: Earlsfield, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Piece: 485
Folio: 70
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Lee 56
Arthur A Lee 21
William Lee 19
Elizabeth Lee 15
Daisey Lee 19


so This one was still in England in 1901 and Eliza is a widow so not your one.

Kerry

Kerry Report 24 Dec 2012 21:00

Thank-you so much everyone.
The above information is definitely "my" Charles Lee.
They owned 2 houses at 76 and 78 Margaret Street, North Adelaide.
Their son William lived next door in No.76 with his wife Fanny and their family.
I do not have (and have never seen) William Lee's marriage certificate.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2012 17:54

Is this Charles' death? (Might give us something to work back from)

LEE. — On the 7th March, at Adelaide, Charles, the dearly beloved husband of E. Lee, 73 Margaret Street, North Adelaide, aged 71 years.

LEE. — The Friends of the late Mr. CHARLES LEE are informed that his Funeral (motor) will Leave his Residence, 78 Margaret Street, North Adelaide, on FRIDAY AFTERNOON, at 4.15 p.m., for the North Road Cemetery. GEO. DOWNS & SON. Undertakers, Jeffcott street, North Adelaide. Phone 786.

AUSTRALIAN TRAMWAY EMPLOYEES' ASSOCIATION, S.A. BRANCH. -
MEMBERS are Informed that the Funeral of our late comrade, C. LEE, will leave his late Residence, 78 Margaret Street, North Adelaide, on FRIDAY, at 4.15 p.m., for North Road Cemetery.
T. ADAMS, Vice-Presldent. J SORRELL, Act. Secretary.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 14:29

Kerry if you have the marriage cert does it say what his fathers occupation was please?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Dec 2012 14:28

Got called away...........sorry