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They are both lodgers ..

ok. in 1891 are butcher and pachett visiting or are they members of the family??

thanks for all you help x

means 10 months old .

Why does samuel have 10/12 next to him ?? x

you are welcome :-D

YES THATS THE ONE !!!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Thank you so much. : xxxx

just for good measure
Name: John H Ballard
Birth Date: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Shardlow
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 596

Name: Elizabeth Ballard
Birth Date: abt 1877
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1953
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Ilkeston
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 301

presume you have this??
Name: John Henry Ballard
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1897
Registration district: Shardlow
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 919

spouse Elizabeth Salt

1901 England Census about John Henry Ballard
Name: John Henry Ballard
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Ballard
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Long Eaton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Long Eaton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address:1 Sawley Road

Occupation:Railway shunter- points

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Stapleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 3210
Folio: 32
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
John Henry Ballard 25
Elizabeth Ballard 23
Robert A Ballard 3
Lawrence Ballard 2
Gertrude E Ballard 2 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3210; Folio: 32; Page: 13.

this one??
1911 England Census about John Henry Ballard
Name: John Henry Ballard
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Long Eaton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: 77 Bennett St Long Eaton Derby-shire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Shardlow
Registration District Number: 434
Sub-registration district: Stapleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 20836
Household Members:
Name Age
John Henry Ballard 35
Elizabeth Ballard 33
Robert Alfred Ballard 13
Lawrence Arthur Ballard 12
Gertrude Eveyln Ballard 10
Hilda May Ballard 5
Frank Ballard 2
Samuel Ballard 10/12


Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 20836;

married 13 years 7 children born 6 still living

we cross posted I didnt see the other name . thought you were still on Elizabeth Cooper search

Shirley i think your getting the wrong end of the stick.lol Can you please look for JOHN HENRY BALLARD !! B.1876 1901 cencus and 1911 cencus ...He married another side of my family Elizabeth salt.

1891 census

Name: Thos Cooper
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Cooper
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoton, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil parish: Eastwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Eastwood
Town: Codnor
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: New Eastwood

Occupation:Coal miner

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2659
Folio: 28
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Cooper 31
Mary Cooper 28
Elizabeth Cooper 8 b Eastwood
John Thos Cooper 5
Georgina Cooper 3
Charlotte Cooper 1
William Butcher 21
Arthur Patchett 18
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2659; Folio: 28; Page: 50; GSU roll: 6097769.

These are two different people shirley. This is JOHN HENRY BALLARD. X

I posted the 1901 census above @16.16

Could you have a look at the 1911 and 1901 cencus for John Henry Ballard b.1876.

He is married to elizabeth Salt

Please could you tell me the household for each one this would be such a great help.

many many thanks

Mark, don't mind looking up 1901/1911 but what do you want?

How have you established her father was Thomas?

After looking futher into it, her father is thomas cooper x Shirley do you have access to the 1901 and 1911 cencus ? x

We cant tell you who her dad was I,m afraid . you need to get the marriage cert for that info :-D

On the last cencus i looked at she had her birthplace as eastwood, i havnt got the cert yet x