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I'm glad you think so..........lol!

yes its okay thanks reggie,theres a method in my madness as they say,

mfm

I'm thoroughly confused now............

Which John Humphrey are you actually researching?

And surely you know that English death certs don't include parental info?

Reggie, hi i bought john humphreys death cert to see if he was the son of John Humphrey,i am sorting the humphrey family out now.As i said though at the moment i dont know who John married to get William John Humphrey as a son.

I have just made contact with someone who may be able to help me though.Hopefully they can tell me Johns wifes name.

Best wishes mfm

ps i will let you know if i get the information.

You asked 'alviegal' about 1911.......... surely the 1911 census posted shows the child born 1906.................

Why did you buy John's death cert? You must have a connection...........what is it?

Dear Reggie, i have not been able to find a marriage for John, i think it might be him in Kensington in 1901.

I have a John Humphrey death cert for 1959 stating his son William J Humphrey was the informant and living in Heathfield Sussex.

Thankyou Choccy so much for the death details.

Oh well christmas is nearly over,

Best wishes for 2013

mfm

Who/when/where did JOHN marry?

When did JOHN die?

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Humphrey William J Everest E.Grinstead 2b 243

How are you connected to these people?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: William John Humphrey
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1912
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1971
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Uckfield
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 1366




this looks more likely -


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: William John Humphrey
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1906
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1981
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Uckfield
Inferred County: West Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 1287


Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Humphrey William John Uckfield 2b 119

Andrew,
Thats probably the one who was 90 when he died.

mfm

??

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about William John Humphrey
Name: William John Humphrey
Probate Date: 31 Oct 1961
Death Date: 28 Apr 1961
Death Place: Sussex, England
Registry: Lewes

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Jun 1961 (>99%)
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HUMPHREY William J 90 Uckfield 5h 494




Andy

Dear ***alviegal*** that might be the marriage but then is there a William J Humphrey living with them before 1911?

We keep searching!!

i will keep that one on record,

many thanks mfm

Hi ***alviegal*** yes i have worked that one out also,John that married Lizzie was the son of Jabez Humphrey.

I will see if i can find any deaths of a William J Humphrey around Heathfield Sussex after 1959, hopefully i will and then find his birth year,

Many thanks mfm

Could this be his marriage?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Humphrey
Name: John Humphrey, labourer of 12 Kilburn Lane
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Whitchouse
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1902
Parish: Kensal Green St John the Evangelist
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Humphrey, labourer
Spouse Father Name: George Whitchouse
Register Type: Parish Register

This appears to be the Mayfield, Sussex one from the above census.


1901 census transcription details for: Summerhill Cottage, Mayfield, Hadlow Down Five Ashes
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 898
Folio: 46
Page: 10
Reg. District: Uckfield
Sub District: Rotherfield
Parish: Mayfield
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: St Marks Hadlow Down
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Summerhill Cottage, Mayfield, Hadlow Down Five Ashes
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HUMPHREY, Jabez Head Married M 48 1853 Farm Bailiff
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Mary J Wife Married F 44 1857
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, John Son Single M 17 1884 Farm Lab (Carter)
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Thomas Son Single M 15 1886 Gardener
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Hagar Daughter Single F 13 1888
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Henry Son M 10 1891
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Jabez Son M 7 1894
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Albert Son M 4 1897
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Baden L Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Lilly Grand Daughter F 2 1899
Mayfield, Sussex


and this is your man.

1901 census transcription details for: 55, Queens Gate Mews, Kensington
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 19
Folio: 64
Page: 66
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington Town
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Abbot
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 55, Queens Gate Mews, Kensington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KINSELA, Matthew Head Widower M 63 1838 Coachman Domestic
Manchester, Lancashire
KINCH, Edward Visitor Single M 23 1878 Groom Domestic
Shrewsbury, Shropshire
GRIFFITHS, Arthur Visitor Single M 24 1877 Helper Domestic
Westbourne, Hampshire
HUMPHREYS, John Visitor Single M 18 1883 Helper Domestic
Wadhurst, Sussex

Dear Andy,
many thanks for the help, i think this one is going to be harder than i thought,henry humphrey born 1891 brother? i dont know of him.

I have William J Humphrey living in heathfield sussex in 1959,maybe a death search for him may help me,

many thanks for your input,

mfm

Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Humphrey William John Uckfield 2b 119


Uckfield registration district includes Wadhurst

Andy

There is also this one?


1911 England Census about William J Humphrey
Name: William J Humphrey
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hoxton, London, England
Civil parish: Willesborough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 47 Gladstone Road, South Willesborough, Ashford, Kent
Occupation: school
Registration district: East Ashford
Registration District Number: 56
Sub-registration district: Brabourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 4285
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard N Morley 44
Susan R Morley 67
Charles Henry Bilton 10
William J Humphrey 6

many thanks to you both,i will look into this one,i think its the Lizzie Cornford marriage,the Henry Humphrey is stated as a brother? to John,

Thankyou again mfm

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
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CORNFORD Cornelius Uckfield 2b 253
CORNFORD Lizzie Uckfield 2b 253
HUMPHREY John Uckfield 2b 253
Knight Lizzie Uckfield 2b 253


Andy