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Hi, continuing this thread,is it possible for someone to look at the uk phone books on ancestry around 1980 onwards and see if there is a William John Humphrey living in Heathfield Sussex

Any help appreciated.

Many thanks mfm


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Merry Christmas gr users, hope your days are good,

I have found a John Humphrey in Kensington London in 1901 age 18,John was born 1883/4 Wadhurst Sussex. I now have his death cert which tells me he had a son called William J Humphrey.sadly i dont know what the J stands for but i am guessing its john after his dad or his grandfather was john also.

Do they show together anywhere in 1911,or maybe its that William was born after 1911.

Any help appreciated...mfm

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There are these deaths for william john humphrey

1971 uckfield
1981 uckfield

can someone please tell me the birth years,

many thanks mfm

1911 no idea if right one or not

Name: John Humphrey
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Mayfield, Sussex
Civil parish: Warbleton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Cowden Farm Cottage Vines Cross Horeham Road Sx
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Waggoner
Registration district: Hailsham
Registration District Number: 72
Sub-registration district: Herstmonceux
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 4867
Household Members: Name Age
John Humphrey 27
Lizzie Humphrey 31
W John Humphrey 5
Rush Cornford 9 - daughter ?
Henry Humphrey 20 - brother
Thomas Dann 40 - boarder



Who did John marry?

Maybe

1911 England Census
about John Humphrey
Name: John Humphrey
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Mayfield, Sussex
Civil parish: Warbleton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Cowden Farm Cottage Vines Cross Horeham Road Sx
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Waggoner
Registration district: Hailsham
Registration District Number: 72
Sub-registration district: Herstmonceux
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 4867
Household Members: Name Age
John Humphrey 27
Lizzie Humphrey 31
W John Humphrey 5
Rush Cornford 9
Henry Humphrey 20
Thomas Dann 40




Andy

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
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CORNFORD Cornelius Uckfield 2b 253
CORNFORD Lizzie Uckfield 2b 253
HUMPHREY John Uckfield 2b 253
Knight Lizzie Uckfield 2b 253


Andy

many thanks to you both,i will look into this one,i think its the Lizzie Cornford marriage,the Henry Humphrey is stated as a brother? to John,

Thankyou again mfm

There is also this one?


1911 England Census about William J Humphrey
Name: William J Humphrey
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hoxton, London, England
Civil parish: Willesborough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 47 Gladstone Road, South Willesborough, Ashford, Kent
Occupation: school
Registration district: East Ashford
Registration District Number: 56
Sub-registration district: Brabourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 4285
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard N Morley 44
Susan R Morley 67
Charles Henry Bilton 10
William J Humphrey 6

Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Humphrey William John Uckfield 2b 119


Uckfield registration district includes Wadhurst

Andy

Dear Andy,
many thanks for the help, i think this one is going to be harder than i thought,henry humphrey born 1891 brother? i dont know of him.

I have William J Humphrey living in heathfield sussex in 1959,maybe a death search for him may help me,

many thanks for your input,

mfm

This appears to be the Mayfield, Sussex one from the above census.


1901 census transcription details for: Summerhill Cottage, Mayfield, Hadlow Down Five Ashes
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 898
Folio: 46
Page: 10
Reg. District: Uckfield
Sub District: Rotherfield
Parish: Mayfield
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: St Marks Hadlow Down
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Summerhill Cottage, Mayfield, Hadlow Down Five Ashes
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HUMPHREY, Jabez Head Married M 48 1853 Farm Bailiff
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Mary J Wife Married F 44 1857
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, John Son Single M 17 1884 Farm Lab (Carter)
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Thomas Son Single M 15 1886 Gardener
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Hagar Daughter Single F 13 1888
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Henry Son M 10 1891
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Jabez Son M 7 1894
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Albert Son M 4 1897
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Baden L Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Mayfield, Sussex
HUMPHREY, Lilly Grand Daughter F 2 1899
Mayfield, Sussex


and this is your man.

1901 census transcription details for: 55, Queens Gate Mews, Kensington
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 19
Folio: 64
Page: 66
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington Town
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Abbot
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 55, Queens Gate Mews, Kensington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KINSELA, Matthew Head Widower M 63 1838 Coachman Domestic
Manchester, Lancashire
KINCH, Edward Visitor Single M 23 1878 Groom Domestic
Shrewsbury, Shropshire
GRIFFITHS, Arthur Visitor Single M 24 1877 Helper Domestic
Westbourne, Hampshire
HUMPHREYS, John Visitor Single M 18 1883 Helper Domestic
Wadhurst, Sussex

Could this be his marriage?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Humphrey
Name: John Humphrey, labourer of 12 Kilburn Lane
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Whitchouse
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1902
Parish: Kensal Green St John the Evangelist
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Humphrey, labourer
Spouse Father Name: George Whitchouse
Register Type: Parish Register

Hi ***alviegal*** yes i have worked that one out also,John that married Lizzie was the son of Jabez Humphrey.

I will see if i can find any deaths of a William J Humphrey around Heathfield Sussex after 1959, hopefully i will and then find his birth year,

Many thanks mfm

Dear ***alviegal*** that might be the marriage but then is there a William J Humphrey living with them before 1911?

We keep searching!!

i will keep that one on record,

many thanks mfm

??

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about William John Humphrey
Name: William John Humphrey
Probate Date: 31 Oct 1961
Death Date: 28 Apr 1961
Death Place: Sussex, England
Registry: Lewes

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Jun 1961 (>99%)
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HUMPHREY William J 90 Uckfield 5h 494




Andy

Andrew,
Thats probably the one who was 90 when he died.

mfm

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: William John Humphrey
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1912
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1971
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Uckfield
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 1366




this looks more likely -


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: William John Humphrey
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1906
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1981
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Uckfield
Inferred County: West Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 1287


Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Humphrey William John Uckfield 2b 119

Who/when/where did JOHN marry?

When did JOHN die?

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Humphrey William J Everest E.Grinstead 2b 243

How are you connected to these people?

Dear Reggie, i have not been able to find a marriage for John, i think it might be him in Kensington in 1901.

I have a John Humphrey death cert for 1959 stating his son William J Humphrey was the informant and living in Heathfield Sussex.

Thankyou Choccy so much for the death details.

Oh well christmas is nearly over,

Best wishes for 2013

mfm

You asked 'alviegal' about 1911.......... surely the 1911 census posted shows the child born 1906.................

Why did you buy John's death cert? You must have a connection...........what is it?

Reggie, hi i bought john humphreys death cert to see if he was the son of John Humphrey,i am sorting the humphrey family out now.As i said though at the moment i dont know who John married to get William John Humphrey as a son.

I have just made contact with someone who may be able to help me though.Hopefully they can tell me Johns wifes name.

Best wishes mfm

ps i will let you know if i get the information.

I'm thoroughly confused now............

Which John Humphrey are you actually researching?

And surely you know that English death certs don't include parental info?