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BM

BM Report 27 Dec 2012 17:13

Marie, that is him in 1911. Could the 10 years have been the time he was married to Annie or maybe Catherine?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Dec 2012 17:14

Just a guess going by location of 1911

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Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
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BRADSHAW Florence Kensington 1a 441
Chamberlain George Kensington 1a 441
Gosling Eliza Maria Kensington 1a 441
Till Albert Edward Kensington 1a 441

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Dec 2012 17:22

Just a slight correction for 1911 census:-states having 2 children, not 1 (l living and 1 died)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 17:23

BM - as I said right at the beginning, if Annie and George Chamberlain had ever really married (no matter where in the world it happened) then she would have used the name Chamberlain on her marriage to Henry Lewsey. I also said that divorce was almost unheard of back then for ordinary people (it was way too expensive) so if George didn't die until 1918 then she was either legally unmarried in 1906 or committing bigamy (not actually that uncommon). I think the former is more likely.

I really think you should invest in that 1906 marriage certificate.

Where did you find George's death in 1918?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 17:26

You're right Catherine, have amended.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Dec 2012 17:32

I presumed this death

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Chamberlain George 65 Kensington 1a 182



Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Dec 2012 17:40

This looks to be Annie and her two children in 1891:-

1891 England Census about Anne Carlson
Name: Anne Carlson
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Carlson
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: ? Wash

Condition as to marriage: M

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 40
Folio: 195
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
George Carlson 32 born: Aberdeen, Scotland (occupation:- Sailor Seas)
Georgina Chamberla 10 born: Paddington, London
William Chamberla 2 born: Marylebone, London
Anne Carlson 33

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 17:51

I think that 1891 is Annie's children. They're shown as boarders and Anne Carlson is his wife, not sure that it's her.

EDIT: Unless she said they weren't hers and she was minding them!

Not seeing that George Carlson on any other census

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Dec 2012 17:56

I think that there is a good chance that it is her in 1891 and she is just living with George Carlson, after all it wouldn't be the first time.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 18:03

It's not unlikely Catherine!

I think BM needs to get a few certs.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 18:27

This family has been niggling at me because there are so many loose ends! Have been doing a load of Scottish research myself so had some spare credits.

Found this death:

7 August 1910 Catherine Chamberlain, widow (!!) of George Chamberlain (soldier) died of carcinoma uteri in Craigleath Poorhouse, Edinburgh. She was the daughter of George Kerr (baker) and Margaret Hunter, both deceased.

The informant was her daughter, J Rutherford of 4 Jamaica Street.

BM

BM Report 27 Dec 2012 19:02

Thank you.

Marie, George's family was quite wealthy I believe, so maybe a divorce isn't out of the question.

Thank you once again. :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 19:08

BM - Housepainters weren't that wealthy! I've already checked the divorce records on the National Archives and there's nothing coming up.

I've just posted the death of his wife Catherine in 1910. He wasn't ever free to marry Annie.

BM

BM Report 27 Dec 2012 19:19

Ok thank you.

I know house painter's were not that wealthy but his family was.

Anyway thank you for all your help.

:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 19:23

BM - if you look at the marriage details from 1876 that I posted for him you'll see his father was also a housepainter.

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Dec 2012 19:27

Can't see a baptism for Catherine Kerr, but found the marriage of her parents:-


groom's name: George Ker
bride's name: Margaret Hunter
marriage date: 31 Jul 1853
marriage place: Haddington,East Lothian,Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11709-9
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1067848, 1067849
...............................................

baptisms for other children to this couple:-

name: George Kerr
gender: Male
birth date: 08 Jun 1855
birthplace: DUNBAR,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father's name: George Kerr
mother's name: Margaret Hunter
indexing project (batch) number: C11706-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

name: Thomas Hunter Kerr
gender: Male
birth date: 26 Apr 1857
birthplace: HADDINGTON,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father's name: George Kerr
mother's name: Margaret Hunter
indexing project (batch) number: C11709-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

name: Beatrice Kerr
gender: Female
birth date: 31 May 1859
birthplace: HADDINGTON,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father's name: George Kerr
mother's name: Margaret Hunter
indexing project (batch) number: C11709-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

...............but no Catherine??

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Dec 2012 19:32

According to the 1910 death for Catherine Chamberlain, her father George Kerr was a Baker, not a House Painter ??

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 19:36

That's right Catherine.

I said his father was a housepainter on the 1876 marriage.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 27 Dec 2012 20:00

This is confusing but right from the start, I thought there were 2 different men called George Chamberlain.

One married Catherine Kerr in 1876 and was a soldier.
He was the son of George ( a housepainter) and she was the daughter of George ( a baker)
Catherine died in Edinburgh 1910 ( same parents as 1876 marriage) but if she was already a widow, her husband could not be on a 1911 census..... unless she thought she was a widow ??

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2012 20:11

Anne, the thing that pulls it altogether is George's army service records. That gives his wife as Annie of 144 Clarendon Street and we can see Annie there in 1891 with daughter Georgina. We've also followed that trail.

His service records also give details of marriage to Catherine Kerr and we've followed that trail, too. Maybe she genuinely thought he had died? She later lived with a James Heggie and bore him 3 children (I've done a bit more poking)

The soldier George Chamberlain was a housepainter and glazer before he enlisted in 1874 and resumed that trade after he'd been discharged in 1890.
His records also show that he was posted Edinburgh 22/04/1876 to 04/08/1879.