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Birth lookup - Margaret Elizabeth Sainsbury c 1919

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Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:30

HI, I'm trying to find the date and place of birth of ME Sainsbury. Her parents were Henry James Sainsbury & Dorothy Wood. I can't find any record on free bmd.

many thanks

Angela

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Dec 2012 18:32

Which country or County ?

England ?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:35

Parents' marriage??

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
BERESFORD-WOOD Dorothy Gertrude Eastbourne 2b 159
Dyer Annie Eastbourne 2b 159
SAINSBURY Henry James Eastbourne 2b 159
SMITH Samuel Eastbourne 2b 159
Wood Dorothy Gertrude B Eastbourne 2b 159

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:36

Hi, definitely South of England, but I can't be specific about the county - thanks.

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:38

Hi, that's the parents, although I'm not sure where the "Beresford" name comes from!

thanks

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:38

Not at all sure I have the right couple! Wrong middle initial.

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Sainsbury Margarat R Beresford Wood Ticehurst 2b 138

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:40

Actually, the image for that birth is terrible - middle initial could be anything.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:42

I have a feeling this might be Dorothy??

Births Mar 1880
Wood Dorothy Gertrude Newtown 11b 182


1911 England Census
Name: Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newtown, Montgomeryshire
Civil parish: Broadwater
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Warwick Ridge Forest Road Tunbridge Wells
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Estimated Marriage Year: 1907
Registration district: Ticehurst
Registration District Number: 73
Sub-registration district: Wadhurst

Henry James Sainsbury 47
Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury 31
Henry Thomas Sainsbury 3
Doris Emily Felicia Sainsbury 2
Hannah Saxby 28
Mary Brand 23
Isabel Tookey 23

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:43

Hi I thought she was Margaret Elizabeth, which matches with what I thought was her marriage record to William I Dixon, Sept 1942 in Bristol. Confusing!

thanks

Margee

Margee Report 27 Dec 2012 18:43

1911 England Census
about Henry James Sainsbury Name: Henry James Sainsbury
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salisbury, Wiltshire
Civil parish: Broadwater
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Warwick Ridge Forest Road Tunbridge Wells
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Private Means
Registration district: Ticehurst
Registration District Number: 73
Sub-registration district: Wadhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 4927
Household Members: Name Age
Henry James Sainsbury 47
Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury 31
Henry Thomas Sainsbury 3
Doris Emily Felicia Sainsbury 2
Hannah Saxby 28
Mary Brand 23
Isabel Tookey 23

The other 3 are servants, cook, nurse and parlour maid.

Alemap

Alemap Report 27 Dec 2012 18:45

From FMP

Civil registration event: Birth

Name: SAINSBURY, Margaret E

Registration district: Ticehurst

County: Sussex

Year of registration: 1918

Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

Mother's maiden name: Beresford Wood

Volume no:2B

Page no:156

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Dec 2012 18:45

Family 1911?

Judging by 12 rooms and 3 servants....


1911 England Census
about Henry James Sainsbury
Name: Henry James Sainsbury
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salisbury, Wiltshire
Civil parish: Broadwater
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Warwick Ridge Forest Road Tunbridge Wells
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Private Means
Registration district: Ticehurst
Registration District Number: 73
Sub-registration district: Wadhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 4927
Household Members: Name Age
Henry James Sainsbury 47
Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury 31
Henry Thomas Sainsbury 3
Doris Emily Felicia Sainsbury 2
Hannah Saxby 28
Mary Brand 23
Isabel Tookey 23




Andy

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:45

Interesting! Have left off a lot of other names. Looks like some kind of residential home for women??

1901 Wales Census about Dorothy Gertrude Beresford
Name: Dorothy Gertrude Beresford
Age in 1901: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Ward
Gender: Female
Where born: Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Aberystwyth
Ecclesiastical parish: Aberystwyth Holy Trinity
Town: Aberystwyth
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Aberystwth
Sub-registration district: Aberystwth
ED, institution, or vessel: Alexandra Hall

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:47


1891 Wales Census
Name: Dorothy S Hovel
[Dorothy S Wood]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Frances May Beresford Hovel
Gender: Female
Where born: Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Henllys
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanfihangel
Town: Penybont
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Aberystwith
Sub-registration district: Geneurglynn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Frances May Beresford Hovel 36
Beatrice M Hovel 16
Hilda M F Beresford Hovel 10
Dorothy S Hovel 11
A C Swen Hovel 9
Muriel E K Hovel 8
Reg Wm D Hovel 7
Arthur B S G Hovel 6
Gerald Cal Hovel 1
Annie Biddles 22
Jenny Selle 15

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:48


1881 Wales Census
Name: Dorothy G. Wood
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William H. Wood
Mother's Name: Frances M. Wood
Gender: Female
Where born: Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Newtown
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Kerry Road Oak Villa No 2
Education: View image
Employment status: View image

Registration district: Newtown
Sub-registration district: Newtown

William H. Wood 30
Frances M. Wood 25
Beatrice M. Wood 6
Hilda M.F. Wood 2
Dorothy G. Wood 1
Rosa Cole Wood 18
Emma Preater 36

Margee

Margee Report 27 Dec 2012 18:50

2 with mmn Beresford- Wood:

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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SAINSBURY Frank Beresford-Wood Ticehurst 2b 192

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Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Sainsbury Margarat R Beresford Wood Ticehurst 2b 138

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:51

Hi Brummie Jan, that's Dorothy and the children listed in 1911 are Margaret's siblings. I wonder why she added the Beresford. I think the 1918 entry most be Margaret Elizabeth, as you suggest it must be the quality of the transcription, I'll order a copy of the cert. I've also been trying to find her death - I think she was 62 when she died ie: 1980 and would be Margaret Dixon.

many thanks

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Dec 2012 18:52

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Henry James Sainsbury
Name: Henry James Sainsbury
Probate Date: 23 Oct 1942
Death Date: 6 Aug 1942
Death Place: Bristol, England
Registry: Bristol

1901 says Fine Art Dealer

Effects £79159. Thats a lot for the time.

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Dec 2012 18:57

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury
Name: Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury
Probate Date: 27 Feb 1950
Death Date: 27 Oct 1949
Death Place: Bristol, England
Registry: Bristol

Effects £15k

to Midland Bank and Elizabeth DIXON (could be Margaret?)

Andy

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 19:00

You can see her mother has Beresford in her name also. I haven't been able to pin down the marriage for her parents - they had widely differing birthplaces, as did the children!
Jan