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Birth lookup - Margaret Elizabeth Sainsbury c 1919

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2012 20:19

Angela, the probate record only lists the executors of the will, not those who inherit. You have to purchase the will to get the names of those who inherit.

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 19:13

Hi Jan, I think Elizabeth Dixon is Margaret Elizabeth. Interesting that she was the only child to inherit as there were other siblings. Assuming that Henry J Sainsbury left his £79k to his widow when he died, over £64k had gone in about 8 years!

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 19:03

Hi everyone thanks for all your prompt responses - that's definitely the right family and I knew that Henry James Sainsbury was a wealthy man when he died. I also need to unpick the Beresford addition.

thanks once again

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 19:00

You can see her mother has Beresford in her name also. I haven't been able to pin down the marriage for her parents - they had widely differing birthplaces, as did the children!
Jan

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Dec 2012 18:57

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury
Name: Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury
Probate Date: 27 Feb 1950
Death Date: 27 Oct 1949
Death Place: Bristol, England
Registry: Bristol

Effects £15k

to Midland Bank and Elizabeth DIXON (could be Margaret?)

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Dec 2012 18:52

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Henry James Sainsbury
Name: Henry James Sainsbury
Probate Date: 23 Oct 1942
Death Date: 6 Aug 1942
Death Place: Bristol, England
Registry: Bristol

1901 says Fine Art Dealer

Effects £79159. Thats a lot for the time.

Andy

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:51

Hi Brummie Jan, that's Dorothy and the children listed in 1911 are Margaret's siblings. I wonder why she added the Beresford. I think the 1918 entry most be Margaret Elizabeth, as you suggest it must be the quality of the transcription, I'll order a copy of the cert. I've also been trying to find her death - I think she was 62 when she died ie: 1980 and would be Margaret Dixon.

many thanks

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2012 18:50

2 with mmn Beresford- Wood:

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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SAINSBURY Frank Beresford-Wood Ticehurst 2b 192

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Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Sainsbury Margarat R Beresford Wood Ticehurst 2b 138

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:48


1881 Wales Census
Name: Dorothy G. Wood
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William H. Wood
Mother's Name: Frances M. Wood
Gender: Female
Where born: Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Newtown
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Kerry Road Oak Villa No 2
Education: View image
Employment status: View image

Registration district: Newtown
Sub-registration district: Newtown

William H. Wood 30
Frances M. Wood 25
Beatrice M. Wood 6
Hilda M.F. Wood 2
Dorothy G. Wood 1
Rosa Cole Wood 18
Emma Preater 36

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:47


1891 Wales Census
Name: Dorothy S Hovel
[Dorothy S Wood]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Frances May Beresford Hovel
Gender: Female
Where born: Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Henllys
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanfihangel
Town: Penybont
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Aberystwith
Sub-registration district: Geneurglynn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Frances May Beresford Hovel 36
Beatrice M Hovel 16
Hilda M F Beresford Hovel 10
Dorothy S Hovel 11
A C Swen Hovel 9
Muriel E K Hovel 8
Reg Wm D Hovel 7
Arthur B S G Hovel 6
Gerald Cal Hovel 1
Annie Biddles 22
Jenny Selle 15

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:45

Interesting! Have left off a lot of other names. Looks like some kind of residential home for women??

1901 Wales Census about Dorothy Gertrude Beresford
Name: Dorothy Gertrude Beresford
Age in 1901: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Ward
Gender: Female
Where born: Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Aberystwyth
Ecclesiastical parish: Aberystwyth Holy Trinity
Town: Aberystwyth
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Aberystwth
Sub-registration district: Aberystwth
ED, institution, or vessel: Alexandra Hall

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Dec 2012 18:45

Family 1911?

Judging by 12 rooms and 3 servants....


1911 England Census
about Henry James Sainsbury
Name: Henry James Sainsbury
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salisbury, Wiltshire
Civil parish: Broadwater
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Warwick Ridge Forest Road Tunbridge Wells
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Private Means
Registration district: Ticehurst
Registration District Number: 73
Sub-registration district: Wadhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 4927
Household Members: Name Age
Henry James Sainsbury 47
Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury 31
Henry Thomas Sainsbury 3
Doris Emily Felicia Sainsbury 2
Hannah Saxby 28
Mary Brand 23
Isabel Tookey 23




Andy

Alemap

Alemap Report 27 Dec 2012 18:45

From FMP

Civil registration event: Birth

Name: SAINSBURY, Margaret E

Registration district: Ticehurst

County: Sussex

Year of registration: 1918

Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

Mother's maiden name: Beresford Wood

Volume no:2B

Page no:156

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2012 18:43

1911 England Census
about Henry James Sainsbury Name: Henry James Sainsbury
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salisbury, Wiltshire
Civil parish: Broadwater
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Warwick Ridge Forest Road Tunbridge Wells
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Private Means
Registration district: Ticehurst
Registration District Number: 73
Sub-registration district: Wadhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 4927
Household Members: Name Age
Henry James Sainsbury 47
Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury 31
Henry Thomas Sainsbury 3
Doris Emily Felicia Sainsbury 2
Hannah Saxby 28
Mary Brand 23
Isabel Tookey 23

The other 3 are servants, cook, nurse and parlour maid.

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:43

Hi I thought she was Margaret Elizabeth, which matches with what I thought was her marriage record to William I Dixon, Sept 1942 in Bristol. Confusing!

thanks

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:42

I have a feeling this might be Dorothy??

Births Mar 1880
Wood Dorothy Gertrude Newtown 11b 182


1911 England Census
Name: Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newtown, Montgomeryshire
Civil parish: Broadwater
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Warwick Ridge Forest Road Tunbridge Wells
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Estimated Marriage Year: 1907
Registration district: Ticehurst
Registration District Number: 73
Sub-registration district: Wadhurst

Henry James Sainsbury 47
Dorothy Gertrude Sainsbury 31
Henry Thomas Sainsbury 3
Doris Emily Felicia Sainsbury 2
Hannah Saxby 28
Mary Brand 23
Isabel Tookey 23

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:40

Actually, the image for that birth is terrible - middle initial could be anything.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Dec 2012 18:38

Not at all sure I have the right couple! Wrong middle initial.

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Sainsbury Margarat R Beresford Wood Ticehurst 2b 138

Jan

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:38

Hi, that's the parents, although I'm not sure where the "Beresford" name comes from!

thanks

Angela

Angela Report 27 Dec 2012 18:36

Hi, definitely South of England, but I can't be specific about the county - thanks.