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Kathleen

Kathleen Report 28 Dec 2012 17:30

Hi, have only just subscribed to genesr reunited & have paid extra for the Parish records. No idea how to find them as every time I submit a name it says 'No results found. I've tried different names & years but no luck. Please tell me how to search properly.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Dec 2012 17:39

Hello Kathleen and welcome to the boards.

It's possible that the person you're looking for isn't included in the records available on Genes.

Why not give us an example of someone you're looking for, we'll have a go and then give you some tips.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Dec 2012 16:01

Thank you MarieCeleste & also Cynthia - I've printed out your tip so I'll know next time (hopefully!) Most of my ancestors are from the Isle of Man so I research them when home on the island but one family, the Jacksons are from England. I was trying various members in the parish records but none came up. Charles c 1790 -1876. his wife Harriet 1806 - 1851 both Staffordshire. Then they had at least 9 children together one of which Catherine was my great grandmother. I tried Ultimus as that was a more unusual name born 1850 , Kenilworth, Polesworth, Measham areas. These tries were mainly to see what the Parish records could reveal as I already have some info on these Jacksons. How far back and forward do the Parish registers go on Genes reunited. Thank you for any help or info.

Astra

Astra Report 29 Dec 2012 16:14

Use this site. It's free.

http//familysearch.org/


parents: Charles Jackson,? Harriet
name: Ultimus Jackson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Mar 1850
baptism/christening place: MEASHAM,DERBY,ENGLAND
father's name: Charles Jackson
mother's name: Harriet
indexing project (batch) number: C04397-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 819695

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 Dec 2012 16:32

1851 England Census
about Ultimus Jackson
Name: Ultimus Jackson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Jackson
Mother's Name: Harriott Jackson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Measham

Civil parish: Measham
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Measham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 2084
Folio: 118
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Jackson 56
Harriott Jackson 44
Sarah Ann Jackson 13
Hannah Jackson 11
Arthur Fergus Jackson 10
Walter Jackson 8
Catherine Jackson 7
Thomas Jackson 5
Joseph Jackson 4
Ann Jackson 3
Ultimus Jackson 1


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 Dec 2012 16:38

spouse: Harriet Hand

groom's name: Charles Jackson
bride's name: Harriet Hand
marriage date: 22 Aug 1835 **********************
marriage place: Barlaston,Stafford,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01038-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 426482

Barlaston is where she said she was born on the 1851 census

Inky1

Inky1 Report 29 Dec 2012 16:42

GR do not specify which parish records are available. ie the extent of their coverage. (If that statement is wrong, sombody please correct me).

Presently I also have a subscription to the GR sister site FindMyPast. I expect that the sites have the same parish records. Last month FMP announced the addition of parish records for Doncaster. And included this note:-

"The Doncaster Family History Society provided findmypast.co.uk with these records."

If this is how they are enlarging their database, they will never get anywhere near full coverage.

Like Astra, I suggest the LDS site. (When looking for pre-1837 records, I generally go there first.)



Inky1

Inky1 Report 29 Dec 2012 17:05

Isle of Man (and anywhere else) on LDS

The microfilms, etc. of the London Family History Centre, Kensington are presently stored/available at the National Archives, Kew.

This is the LFHC site:- http://www.londonfhc.org/

Open that and put isle of man into the search box. It will bring up what they have "in stock". There are other LDS centres who probably do not have as much available, but if what you want exists in Salt Lake City, it can be ordered in for a nominal fee.

Search for the film number that Mel mentions above, and you will see that it is "in stock" at Kew. A copy of that page of the marriage register should also give you the witness names, and everyones actual signatures - unless they 'made their mark'.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 19:27

groom's name: Ultimus Jackson
groom's birth date: 1849
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 22
bride's name: Charlotte Scott
bride's birth date: 1852
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 19
marriage date: 25 Dec 1871
marriage place: Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
groom's father's name: Charles Jackson
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: William Scott
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M16761-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1517620

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 2 Jan 2013 20:25

Kucinta, I know how the censuses work for research & some other sites but how did you research the groom's & bride's fathers names? That's useful info .At the moment I'm working on several of Ultimus's eleven children. I have a few definites but then for Winifred Jackson born 1881, Joseph Herbert b 1882 & Walter Ernest b 1883 I have 3 options for each & not sure how to find the exact spouse. Any help appreciated. Thank you

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Jan 2013 20:31

Kathleen, that record is from Family Search as mentioned further up. Here's a link so you can bookmark it https://familysearch.org

This is the direct link to the info that Kucinta posted:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXPB-J9R

It's well worth taking the time to become familiar with the site and see what it has to offer. There are some collections that aren't indexed and you just have to sit and plough through the images but you soon get the hang of it. And it's all free!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 2 Jan 2013 20:40

1911 England Census
about Joseph Herbert Jackson
Name: Joseph Herbert Jackson
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Derby, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Holywell Rd Sheffield
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Iron Turner
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration district: East Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 27981
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Epworth Eyre 31
Melina Beatrice Eyre 31
Melina Kate Eyre 4
Thomas Albert Jones Eyre 3
Albert Jones 30
Ernest Roe 26
John Allen 29
Joseph Herbert Jackson 28 SINGLE***********


Kathleen

Kathleen Report 2 Jan 2013 20:44

Thanks. As you say it's a matter of taking time to see what comes up. I'll check out that site again. The options I mentioned I got were from GR. I have sent requests to 2 people to view their trees on Ultimus Jackson. Have had no answer but not sure yet where exactly I find an answer ! Will it be obvious when I sign in that someone has answered. Do I have to have a tree before a person will let me view - I have started one but not much added yet. Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Jan 2013 20:50

Kathleen, no matter what access you have to various records it's inevitable that sometimes the only way to know who married who is to buy some certificates (order from GRO).

If the marriages were before 1911 then you can check out the various permutation of names from marriage index that way.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 2 Jan 2013 21:11

1901 England Census
about Percy B Jackson
Name: Percy B Jackson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Jackson
Mother's Name: Charlotte Jackson
Gender: Male
Where born: Creswell, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Elmton
Ecclesiastical parish: Elmton St Peter
Town: Elmton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Carburton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 3130
Folio: 99
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
William Jackson 51
Charlotte Jackson 47
Charles Jackson 25
William H Jackson 22
Joseph H Jackson 19
Walter E Jackson 17
Jessie M Jackson 13
Percy B Jackson 12
George E Jackson 10
George Calow 27 ******Son in Law
Annie Calow 28 *****Dau
Winfred Calow 10 Months


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 2 Jan 2013 22:12

Hi Kathleen,

Glad to see that MarieCeleste, Astra and Inky1 have pointed you in the direction of FamilySearch.

Its a great tool, and FREE!

Re your other question, if you have messages, either opening ones from another Genes member or in reply to your own, the ' Messages ' along the top of the home page will have the number of messages waiting for you.

Also, if you're not sure if your messages to other people have been read, go to your 'Sent' messages.

If the little envelope is still closed, then the message has not been read. If the envelope has disappeared, then they have opened it.

If you're trying to make contact, it's probably best not to use the automated Genes 'Request to view your tree one', as a lot of members find it quite blunt and uninformative. Probably better to replace the header with the name of the person you are enquiring about, and then replace the message by saying who you think you have in common, and what your relationship/interest is.

Some parish records are available on :

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

but it can be a bit hit and miss as it's a work in progress. Free though! :-)

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 3 Jan 2013 00:02

Thanks again for all that info. You are all helpful & kind to answer my 'teething' questions. I see that Percy B Jackson & all his siblings have father William & mother Charlotte. In the facts I have for all these chn it is Charlotte & Ultimus.I started on Ultimus because of his more unusual name - he must have had William also as a name. Poor Charlotte - she seems to have been pregnant every 18 months to produce 12 chn. I think Laurence Gordon must have died as I only have him to age 6. The reason I paid for the Parish registers records was mainly to research all Ultimus's siblings & their chn but so far I've found nothing.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 3 Jan 2013 00:09

P.S. found the little envelopes now & they are still unopened.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jan 2013 08:20

1891
JACKSON, ? Head Married M 41 1850 Station Master (Ultimus on image)
Measham, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Charlotte Wife Married F 38 1853
Wavendon, Buckinghamshire
JACKSON, Annie Daughter Single F 19 1872 Pupil Teacher
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
JACKSON, Ellen Daughter Single F 17 1874
Grandon, Warwickshire
JACKSON, Charley Son Single M 15 1876 Butchers Apprentice
Grandon, Warwickshire
JACKSON, Arthur Son M 14 1877 Scholar
Whitwell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, William H Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Whitwell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Winifred Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Cresswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Joseph Herbt Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Cresswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Walter Earnest Son M 8 1883
Cresswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Lawrence Gordon Son M 6 1885
Cresswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Jessie Mable Daughter F 3 1888
Cresswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Percy Baker Son M 2 1889
Cresswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, George Edward Son M 0 (1M) 1891
Cresswell, Derbyshire
Piece: 2647
Folio: 177
Page: 16
Registration District: Worksop
Civil Parish: Elmton
Municipal Borough:
Address: Barm Row, Elmton, Cresswell
County: Nottinghamshire

1901
JACKSON, Ultimus Head Married M 51 1850 Station Master
Measham, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Charlotte Wife Married F 47 1854
Wavendon, Bedfordshire
JACKSON, Charles Son Single M 25 1876 Railway Signalman
Grendon, Warwickshire
JACKSON, William H Son Single M 22 1879 Colliery Clerk
Whitwell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Joseph H Son Single M 19 1882
Creswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Walter E Son Single M 17 1884 Railway Clerk
Creswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Jessie M Daughter Single F 13 1888
Creswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, Percy B Son Single M 12 1889
Creswell, Derbyshire
JACKSON, George E Son Single M 10 1891
Creswell, Derbyshire
CALOW, George Son-In-Law Married M 27 1874 Railway Reliefman
Liverpool, Lancashire
CALOW, Annie Daughter Married F 28 1873
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
CALOW, Winifred Grand Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Cudworth, Yorkshire
Piece: 3130
Folio: 99
Page: 12
Registration District: Worksop
Civil Parish: Elmton (Derby)
Municipal Borough:
Address: Creswell Station, Elmton (Derby), Elmton
County: Nottinghamshire


(you might need free link below to check Birth years)


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Chris :)


Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
Griffiths Rosa May Worksop 7b 83
Jackson Walter Ernest Worksop 7b 83


Year:1904
Forenames:Walter Ernest
Surname:JACKSON
Spouse Forenames:Rosa May
Spouse Surname:GRIFFITHS
Place:Elmton
Description:St.Peter
County:Derbyshire
Country:England
Reg Office:393
Register Entry:PC27/01/281
Record source:Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index

(above might relate, from Find My Past website, but should be on Genes too...Parish Marriages, Elmton.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jan 2013 09:04

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 (Ancestry website)

Name: Arthur Jackson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1876
Christening Date: 31 May 1878
Christening Place: Whitwell, Derbyshire, England
Age at Christening: 1
Father's Name: Ultimus Jackson
Mother's Name: Charlotte

Name: William Hand Jackson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1878
Christening Date: 29 Aug 1879
Christening Place: Whitwell, Derbyshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Ultimus Jackson
Mother's Name: Charlotte

Name: Winifred Jackson
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1880
Christening Date: 15 Aug 1880
Christening Place: Whitwell, Derbyshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Ultimus Jackson
Mother's Name: Charlotte

Name: Joseph Herbert Jackson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1882
Christening Place: Whitwell, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: Ultimus Jackson
Mother's Name: Charlotte

Name: Walter Ernest Jackson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1883
Christening Date: 18 Jan 1884
Christening Place: Whitwell, Derbyshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Ultimus Jackson
Mother's Name: Charlotte

Chris :)