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Would anyone like to try to find John Watson Lund for me please ?
I have him with his parents John Watson Lund and Jane as an errand boy in 1861 in Rusholme, Lancashire, and I think he is an assistant master at Mintholme College in Lancashire in 1881 though this is a bit speculative as place of birth is given as Bradford and YOB as 1851 but I can't find him in 1871 or after 1881.

I would be very grateful for any help.

Thanks

Jean

Jean, I am going to take the liberty of posting the full census on here for reference:


1861 England Census
Name: John Watson Lund
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Watson Lund
Mother's Name: Jane Lund
Gender: Male
Where born: Cross Hill, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rusholme
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick

John Watson Lund 46
Jane Lund 43
H Edmundson Lund 19
Sarah Jane Lund 17
John Watson Lund 12
Charles W Lund 8
Mary Gregory 45

For info:

John Watson Lund
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Watson Lund
Mother's Name: Jane Lund
Gender: Male
Where born: Cross Hill, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rusholme
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 86
Piece: 2874
Folio: 41
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson Lund 46
Jane Lund 43
H Edmundson Lund 19
Sarah Jane Lund 17
John Watson Lund 12
Charles W Lund 8
Mary Gregory 45

found these but probably not the one

John Watson Lund
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1811 York
census: 1881 Islington,? Middlesex,? England
children: Sararh Jane Lund,? Charles Williamson Lund


name: John Watson Lund
age: 70
gender: Male
birth year: 1811
birthplace: York
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Widower
profession/occupation: Tailors Cutter
address: 145 Hemingford Rd
census place: Islington, Middlesex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341052
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 237 / 6
page number: 5

John Watson Lund
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Kildonck,? Yorkshire
census: 1891 England


name: John Watson Lund
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 82
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Kildonck, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Barnet
sub-district: Finchley
ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
civil parish: Finchley
county: Middlesex

John Lund
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 19 Sep 1848 St. Peter's,? Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England
residence: Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England
parents: William Lund,? Elizabeth


name: John Lund
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 19 Sep 1848
baptism/christening place: St. Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
father's name: William Lund
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: I02228-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1068940

Again, just for info and maybe a better idea of birth location. . I think the 171 family is his, obviously he is not with them.

1851 England Census
Name: John W Lund
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John W Lund
Mother's Name: Jane Lund
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Crosshill, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Kildwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Kildwick
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Skipton
Sub-registration district: Kettlewell

John W Lund 40
Jane Lund 37
Hardacre E Lund 9
Christopher Lund 8
Sarah Lund 7
John W Lund 2


1871 England Census
Name: Chas W Lund

Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Lund
Mother's Name: Elizh Lund
Gender: Male
Where born: Crosstlills, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: St Andrew Holborn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern

John Lund 60
Hardaker Lund 29
Chas W Lund 17
Elizh Lund 43
Walter Lund 19
George H Lund 14
Jessie E Lund 12
Joseph Lampard 39

Yes that's the family, they moved to London after Lancashire. though not the baptism he was baptised at Kildwick Church in Yorkshire .

would have been good to know his baptismal location at the beginning

He was born in Crosshills in Yorkshire which is between Skipton and Keighley in the parish of Kildwick. The nearest city is Bradford which is why I think the 1881 entry may be him.

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I think this is the parents' marr:

Marriages Sep 1841 (>99%)
Bailey Jane Skipton 23 474
BENTLEY Hannah Skipton 23 474
Brown William Skipton 23 474
COWLING Peter Skipton 23 474
EMMOTT Anne Skipton 23 474
HARRISON Mary Skipton 23 474
LAND John Watson Skipton 23 474
OGDEN Martin Skipton 23 474

1851 England Census Transcription
County:Yorkshire (West riding)
Parish:KILDWICH
Division Of County:WEST RIDING
Ecclesiastical District:KILDWICK
Hamlet:CROSSHILLS
House Name:CROSS HILLS
Registration District:SKIPTON
Enumeration District:3B
Archive Reference:HO107 Piece Number:2278 Folio:479 Page:23

JOHN W LUND 1811 40 Cowling, Yorks HEAD M Tailor
JANE LUND 1814 37 Silsden Moor, Yorks WIFE M Domestic duties
HARDACE[HARDACRE] E LUND 1842 9 Silsden Moor, Yorks SON Scholar
CHRISTOPHER LUND 1843 8 Crosshills, Yorks SON Scholar
SARAH LUND 1844 7 Crosshills, Yorks DAUGHTER Scholar
JOHN W LUND 1849 2 Crosshills, Yorks SON Home

Yes that's the marriage of his parents.

Jean