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Info on My Dad....Help please!

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Liz Report 28 Dec 2012 21:20

I am trying to find a birth record for my father and info on his parents, I can find record of his death and marriages but no birth record.
I have no idea what his parents names are but I know his date of birth. Where else can i look?
Thanks Liz


AnnCardiff Report 28 Dec 2012 21:28

Hi Liz - welcome to the boards

if you care to give his name and dob, plus any other information you have - you are sure to get some assistance here


patchem Report 28 Dec 2012 21:33

His Father's name should be on his marriage certificate.
Have you applied for it - for confirmation when you find the birth record?


brummiejan Report 28 Dec 2012 21:34

If you really can't find it, you might need a marriage cert in order to find out his father's name.


patchem Report 28 Dec 2012 21:44

As you have a hyphenated surname, is this also his surname?
If so, could he have hyphenated it after his birth so you need to look for the separate parts?


Reggie Report 28 Dec 2012 22:55

In which country do you think he was born?

Did he die in England/Wales after 1969?

If so, his place of birth should be on the death cert


Reggie Report 28 Dec 2012 22:57

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Michael Trevor-venis
Birth Date: 10 Apr 1919
Date of Registration: Mar 1994
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Hastings and Rother
Inferred County: East Sussex
Register Number: C51A
District and Subdistrict: 4561C
Entry number: 153

His 1981 marriage was to a woman with the same recorded surname....which seems unlikely, to say the least


patchem Report 28 Dec 2012 23:05

Was this his first marriage?
Michael T Venis
Spouse Surname: Nuttall
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1946
Registration district: Hove
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 667

Marriage certificate for name of Father looks necessary.

Michael T Venis
Year: 1945
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street Address: 143 Granville Mansions


mgnv Report 29 Dec 2012 02:57

There's only 3 Michael T's rego'ed in 1919q2, viz:

Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
Blaustein Michael T Klebensky Shoreditch 1c 62
Marwood Michael T Morrish Hendon 3a 504
Wainwright Michael T van Heck Hendon 3a 447

It's the 1st one I find interesting:

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
Blaustein Michael Klebensky St.Martin 1a 1311
Blaustein Michael Sullivan St.Martin 1a 1311
Klebensky Annie Blaustein St. Martin 1a 1311
Sullivan Doris Blaustein St. Martin 1a 1311

with an ambiguously named bride.

Here's another marr with an ambiguously named bride (& groom):

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Blaustein Annie Venicoff London C. 1c 87
Blaustein Annie Venis London C. 1c 87
Blaustein Doris Venicoff London C. 1c 87
Blaustein Doris Venis London C. 1c 87
Venicoff Bernard Blaustein London C. 1c 87
Venis Bernard Blaustein London C. 1c 87


Liz Report 29 Dec 2012 08:54

Many thanks all for your responses.

His DOB was 10/04/1919 and he was born in London according to his passport.

First Marriage was to A Nuttall
Second to D Hamerson
and third was to my mum in 1981

They got divorced and she hast got her marriage cert

According to my Mum he was born Michael Venis with Trevor being his middle name he then joined the up.


K Report 29 Dec 2012 09:17

Looks like Michael Blaustein died in 1918 and his wife later married Bernard Venis as mgnv found

Name: Michael Blaustein
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1918
Age at Death: 26
Registration district: St Martin
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 1118

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)

Blaustein Annie Venis London C. 1c 87
Venis Bernard Blaustein London C. 1c 87


BradM Report 29 Dec 2012 09:52

I have found a marriage between Audrey M Nuttall and Michael Venis or Blaustein March 1946 Hove 2b 667


Liz Report 29 Dec 2012 10:31

There is Michael T Blaustein born april 1919... that must be him?


Liz Report 29 Dec 2012 10:35

Amazing thank you all so much for your help


Flip Report 29 Dec 2012 10:56

I think this could be his father in 1911, all the family born Austria, but I can't make out the place name:

Michael Blaustein
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Aust
Civil parish: St John-at-Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 46 Lower Clapton Road N E
Registration district: Hackney
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 1094
Household Members: Name Age
Noah Blaustein 55
Mulka Blaustein 52
Sarah Blaustein 26
Rose Blaustein 24
Yetta Blaustein 22
Michael Blaustein 18
Dora Blaustein 15
Jack Blaustein 14
Golda Blaustein 11
Hyman Shorstein 30 (Prospective son in law!)

The parents had been married 34 years, 17 children but 8 had died.


Liz Report 29 Dec 2012 11:04

Thats great thank you so much

His mother was definately Annie Klebensky she then married Blaustien 1918 then married Bernard Venis in 1921
It says Blaustien died in 1918 too


Flip Report 29 Dec 2012 11:04

and a possibility for his mother's family:

Annie Klchensky
[Annie Klebensky]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Solomon Klchensky
Mother's Name: Adliade Klchensky
Gender: Female
Where born: Stamford Hill, London, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:


Condition as to marriage:


Employment status: View image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Shoreditch South
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 237
Piece: 269
Folio: 47
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Solomon Klchensky 34
Adliade Klchensky 35
Jacob Klchensky 12
Abey Klchensky 3
Sarah Klchensky 7
Annie Klchensky 6

Both parents born Russia, but children around London

A copy of the marriage certificate would confirm the father's details.


Flip Report 29 Dec 2012 11:13

This could be Annie/Doris's death:

Doris A Venis
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1955
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Hove
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 334


Liz Report 29 Dec 2012 11:13

Thats fantastic thank you, am trying to find anything on Bernard Venis who could be his father but not coming up with much


Flip Report 29 Dec 2012 11:19

His stepfathers probate:

Bernard Venis
Probate Date: 9 Aug 1960
Death Date: 1 Jul 1960
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

Of 7 Goldhawke Road Hammersmith, died St Charles hospital, Kensington. Probate to Michael Trevor Venis, antique dealer, £607 19s 10d

The death index for an age:

Bernard Venis
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1960
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 870