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Sidami

Sidami Report 28 Dec 2012 21:53

I have a death for Susannah Coppin died 1925 Sep qtr in Manchester S would Ancestry tell you her date and place of birth please?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Dec 2012 21:55

Nobody can do that. You know her year of birth from the entry:

Name: Susannah Coppin
Birth Date: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: South Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 238


Was this her married or maiden name? How did you come by her?

Jan

Sidami

Sidami Report 28 Dec 2012 22:04

Jan this was her married name its just that I have her born 1865 and that is a bit out to the estimated 1868,,,,,,,thankyou

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Dec 2012 22:06

If you want to find her birth details you need to use her maiden name. Do you know what this was, and/or who she married?
Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Dec 2012 22:10

Was she the wife of John B Coppin

Administration granted to him in 1925

69 Alexandra Road, Moss Side, Manchester. He was a confectioner

Sidami

Sidami Report 28 Dec 2012 22:12

Thankyou Maureen correct she was married to him so that would add up

jax

jax Report 28 Dec 2012 22:13

It is only 3 years out, the info given at death is only as good as what the informant knew

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Dec 2012 22:15

1911 just for info

Name: John Bennett Coppin
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Suxilyan, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 69 Alexandra Rd Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Fancy Baker & Confectioner
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Piece: 23915
Household Members: Name Age
John Bennett Coppin 52
Sussanna Coppin 42
Annie Susan Jane Bennett 52
Emily Jane Watkins 45

Reggie

Reggie Report 28 Dec 2012 22:17

Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)
Coppin John Bennett Blackburn 8e 445
Dixon Susanna Blackburn 8e 445


1911 census

Person: COPPIN, John Bennett Address: 69 Alexandra Road Moss Side Manchester

COPPIN, John Bennett Head Married26 years M 52 1859 Fancy Baker And Confectioner Cornwall Suxilyan Lincoln VIEW
COPPIN, Susanna Wife Married F 42 1869 Lincolnshire VIEW
BENNETT, Annie Susan Jane Cousin Single F 52 1859 Dressmaker Cornwall St Blazey VIEW
WATKINS, Emily Jane Servant Single F 45 1866 Domestic Servant Bryn Salop Shropshire VIEW

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Dec 2012 22:37

You might need her marriage cert. to try and ascertain her father's name and find her on a census before marriage. She is consistently vague about birthplace:

1891 England Census
Name: Susannah Coppin
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John B Coppin
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmunds
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 75

John B Coppin 37
Susannah Coppin 25
Martha Jenkinson 28
Annie Murray 17

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 22:52

A public tree on Ancestry gives her birth as 31 August 1865 in Owersby, Lincolnshire

Daur of

Charles Dixon
Birth 5 December 1838 in Ludford, Lincolnshire
Death 22 May 1903 in Caistor, Lincolnshire

and

Emma Saunby
Birth 2 October 1839 in Martins Timberland, Lincolnshire
Death 18 February 1917 in Caistor, Lincolnshire.



It also has a birth cert for one Albert Purvis:

Date
10 September 1901
Location
Manchester, Lancashire

Description
John Coppin fathered a son out of wedlock with Florence Purvis, who worked in his bakers shop as an assistant.

Let me know if you want the cert pmed to you.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 23:05


Susanna's father on marriage record:

Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936

Name: John Bennett Coppin
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1859
Marriage Date: 19 Mar 1885
Parish: Blackburn, St Peter
Spouse:
Susanna Dixon
Spouse Age: 21
Father: John Coppin
Spouse Father: Charles Dixon<<<<<<<<<<<
Reference Number: Pr 3087/1/8

John Bennett Coppin a traveller
John Coppin a shopkeeper
Charles Dixon a shopkeeper

Witnesses Robert Wilson and John Armstrong

Groom's address: 76 Feiden Street
Bride's address: 9 Feiden Street

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 23:20

census 1871:

Address: Kelsey Road, North, Caistor County: Lincolnshire

DIXON, Charles Head M 32 1839 Ag lab Lincolnshire Ludford <<<<<<
DIXON, Emma Wife F 31 1840 Lincolnshire Mantin?
DIXON, Mary E Daughter F 7 1864 Lincolnshire Caistor
DIXON, Susannah Daughter F 5 1866 Lincolnshire Owersby<<<
DIXON, John R Son M 3 1868 Lincolnshire Owersby
DIXON, Bertha Daughter F 0 1871 Lincolnshire Owersby

Sidami

Sidami Report 28 Dec 2012 23:21

I would love the certs I have pm you with my email address thankyou

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 23:35

Hi,

Have emailed a couple of images etc to you.

Kucinta

EDIT: Also explained how to access the tree via

http://www.mundia.com/gb/

as it seemed quite well documented and sourced.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 00:01

Census 1881, and Charles has changed occupation so he tallies with the shopkeeper description on Susanna's marriage cert.

Susanna not with family in this census, but some of the other children tally with 1871 census:

census 1881

Address: Horse Market, Caistor County: Lincolnshire

DIXON, Charles Head Married M 42 1839 Grocer & Draper (Master) Ludford, Lincolnshire
DIXON, Emma Wife Married F 41 1840 Martin, Lincolnshire
DIXON, Mary E Daughter Single F 17 1864 Caistor, Lincolnshire
DIXON, John R Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Owersby, Lincolnshire
DIXON, Bertha Daughter Single F 10 1871 ScholarCaistor, Lincolnshire
DIXON, Harry Son Single M 5 1876 ScholarCaistor, Lincolnshire
DIXON, Walter Son Single M 3 1878 ScholarCaistor, Lincolnshire
DIXON, Nellie Daughter Single F 1 1880 Caistor, Lincolnshire


Seems Susanna was working as a servant:

Census 1881:

Address: Market Place, Caistor County: Lincolnshire

KIRKBY, Thomas Head Single M 61 1820 Bank Manager Caistor, Lincolnshire
KIRKBY, Ann E Sister Single F 59 1822 Caistor, Lincolnshire
WELCH, Mary Jane Servant Single F 31 1850 Domestic Serv Cook
Thorganby, Lincolnshire
DIXON, Susanna Servant Single F 15 1866 Housemaid (Domestic)
Owersby, Lincolnshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 00:20

Florence Purvis, soon to be mother of Albert in 1901. Note her occupation:

Census 1901:

Address: 103, Meadow Street, Moss Side County: Lancashire

PURVIS, John K Head Married M 56 1845 Boilermaker Glasgow Scotland
PURVIS, Sarah A Wife Married F 56 1845 Holbeck, Yorkshire
PURVIS, Sarah A Daughter Single F 29 1872 Shop Assistant (Hardware) Gorton, Lancashire
PURVIS, Florence G Daughter Single F 20 1881 Shop Assistant (Confectionery) Gorton, Lancashire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
PURVIS, Arthur Son Single M 18 1883 Assistant (Fruit Merchant)
Gorton, Lancashire
PURVIS, Hetty Daughter Single F 15 1886 Lincoln
PURVIS, Geo H Son Single M 14 1887 Assistant Grocer Lincoln
PURVIS, Bertha Daughter Single F 12 1889 Lincoln



and living in the same area:

Address: 69, Alexandra Road, Moss Side County: Lancashire

COPPIN, John Bennett Head Married M 40 1861 Pastry Cook & Confectioner Cornwall<<<<<<<
COPPIN, Sussannah Wife Married F 34 1867 Lincolnshire
WATKINS, Emily Servant Single F 33 1868 General Servant
Wales

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Dec 2012 00:22

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COPPIN John Bennett DIXON Susanna Blackburn, St Peter Blackburn CE136/3/357

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 19 Mar 1885 St Peter, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
John Bennet Coppin - 26 Traveller Bachelor of 76 Feilden Street
Susanna Dixon - 21 Spinster of 9 Feilden Street
Groom's Father: John Coppin, Shop Keeper
Bride's Father: Charles Dixon, Shop Keeper
Witness: Robert Wilson; John Armstrong
Married by License by: G. Edward Hignett (Vicar)
Register: Marriages 1874 - 1891, Page 179, Entry 357
Source: LDS Film 1849646

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Dec 2012 09:22

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Owersby
Church St Martin
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 13 May 1866
Forename Susanna
Sex -
FatherForename Charles
MotherForename Emma
FatherSurname DIXON
MotherSurname
Abode Owersby
FatherOccupation Labourer

(from below link)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)