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Hi, I am trying to find some information on a relative of mine. His name is Robert Davies born in Llandyrnog, Denbighshire in 1827.Apart from the 1841 census and the 1881 census which shows him as a visitor , I cant seem to find a definite entry for him in the other censuses.Is anybody available to help please ?. Its driving me mental !.

Thank you in adavance

Is this him?

1881 Wales Census
about Robert Davies
Name: Robert Davies
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Llandyrnog, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llangynhafal
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Bryn Coch
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gardener (Dom)

Registration district: Ruthin
Sub-registration district: Llandyrnog
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5526
Folio: 47
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Davies 61
Mary Davies 59
Cornelius Davies 12
Robert Davies 54

1891? He is shown as married in 1881 if it is the correct Robert

Name: Robert Davies
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Malitila Davies
Gender: Male
Where born: Llandyrnog, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil parish: St Alkmond
Ecclesiastical parish: Leaton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2110
Folio: 82
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Davies 64
Malitila Davies 56 London Middlesex
Annie Davies 19 b Mountnessing Essex

I think the same couple above in 1871. I can't see them as a couple in 1881 but daughter Annie M is a visitor with a family in Essex.

Name: Robert Davis
[Robert Davies]
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda Davis
Gender: Male
Where born: Benhigh, Wales
[Denbigh, Wales]
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 172
Piece: 165
Folio: 22
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Davis 44
Matilda Davis 34

You say he's a 'relative'............how did you work back to him?

If the 1881 posted above is correct..he is not recorded as a visitor

Have you been flexible in your approach when searching?

Hi, Many thanks for all your posts,

Jax, yes this is him.

K, Thank you

Reggie, In the 1881 census it says he is married so I could not understand why he wasnt with his wife and as I didnt know what her name was I was stumped !. Robert is a brother to my Great , Great Grandfather Richard Davies 1829. They are all in the 1841 census. Many thanks for your time and advice

Is this the correct 1841?

1841 census transcription details for: Rhiwbeby M, Llandyrnog, Rhiw Bebyl
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1404
Book/Folio: 8/3
Page: 16
Reg. District: Ruthin
Sub District: Llandyrnog
Parish: Llandyrnog
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Rhiwbeby M, Llandyrnog, Rhiw Bebyl
County: Denbighshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DAVIES, Anne F 65 1776 Denbighshire
DAVIES, Robert M 35 1806 Denbighshire
DAVIES, Jane F 30 1811 Denbighshire
DAVIES, Mary F 25 1816 Denbighshire
>>DAVIES, Robert M 14 1827 Denbighshire
ROBERTS, David M 20 1821 Denbighshire
ROBERTS, Mariah F 15 1826 Denbighshire


No Richard though. Is this Richard?


1841 census transcription details for: Fforddwr Cottage, Llandyrnog, Speddyd
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1404
Book/Folio: 9/6
Page: 5
Reg. District: Ruthin
Sub District: Llandyrnog
Parish: Llandyrnog
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Fforddwr Cottage, Llandyrnog, Speddyd
County: Denbighshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DAVIES, John M 55 1786 Denbighshire
DAVIES, Anne F 50 1791 Denbighshire
DAVIES, William M 21 1820 Denbighshire
>>DAVIES, Richard M 12 1829 Denbighshire
DAVIES, Charles M 9 1832 Denbighshire
DAVIES, Anne F 7 1834 Denbighshire

Alviegal, yes the entry for Fforddwr Cottage is correct.

Can anybody find Robert,s wife Matilda b. 1835 in London, Middlesex in the 1881 census ?.

I can't see Matilda in 1881 but this could be the birth of her child and Matilda and daughter in 1911

Births Sep 1871 (>99%)
Davis Ann Matilda Billericay 4a 173

1911

TAYLOR, Norman Head Married M 38 1873 Public House Keeper Lancashire Bottle
TAYLOR, Annie Matilda Wife Married16 years F 38 1873 Essex Mount Nessing
DAVIES, Matilda Mother In Law Widow F 75 1836 Sussex Petworth
TAYLOR, Nora Daughter Single F 5 1906 Flints Buckley
WILSON, Mary Elizabeth Servant Widow F 39 1872 General Servant Domestic Derby Bakewell
WALLACE, Florence Maud Freddreicha Servant Single F 20 1891 General Servant Domestic Lancashire Liverpool

RG number: RG14

Piece: 34143

Reference: RG14PN34143 RG78PN1972 RD623 SD2 ED3 SN156

Registration District: St Asaph

Sub District: Abergele

Enumeration District: 3

Parish: Abergele Urban

Address: Cambrian Hotel Pensarn Abergele

County: Denbighshire

Possible marriage?

Name: Matilda Burgess - living at Clapham
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Age: 34
Spouse Name: Robert Davies Butler living at Marylebone
Spouse Age: 44
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Oct 1870
Parish: Clapham Holy Trinity
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Charles Burgess Wool Stapler
Spouse Father Name: John Davies Builder
Register Type: Parish Register

Which could tie into this Matilda in 1841

Name: Matilda Burgess
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Sub Deanery
Hundred: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Chichester
Sub-registration district: Chichester
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1119
Book: 11
Folio: 24
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
James Burgess 25
Mary Burgess 55
Charles Burgess 25 Woolstapling
Matilda Burgess 6

K, I think you may be right !, Many thanks for your time and perseverience.

1871??

1871 census transcription details for: Bryanstone St, St Marylebone, London
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 165
Folio: 22
Page: 35
Reg. District: Marylebone
Sub District: St Mary, Bryanstone Square
Parish: St Marylebone
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: St Marylebone
Address: Bryanstone St, St Marylebone, London
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DAVIES, Robert Head M 44 1827 boarding house keeper Denbighshire
DAVIES, Matilda Wife F 34 1837 Hackney, Middlesex


EDIT sorry K, just seen you've already posted this ;-)

Happy New Year by the way