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Mary

Mary Report 3 Jan 2013 16:42

MC: actually I don't know if she was married before or after she came to the US. I think perhaps at the time I couldn't find any infor under the name "Christy" and when I went to the NYC archives I was able to see the origianl marriage cert for her and James Barnshaw and was surprised to see a previous marriage listed for her. She was only about 17 when she arrived here, but I have another g aunt who was married at 14 in Scotland so I couldn't rule out the possiblity. I couldn't find info in the archives for a previous marriage. In retrospect, it may be that the first marriage was outside the 5 boros.

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jan 2013 16:37

This may be her ?:-

Mary Giles in household of Buck J Giles, "United States Census, 1900"

name: Mary Giles
titles & terms:
event: Census
event date: 1900
event place: ED 48 Justice Precinct 2 (north part) St. Joe town, Montague, Texas, United States
birth date: Feb 1858
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household: Wife
father's birthplace: Scotland
mother's birthplace: Scotland
race or color (standardized): White
gender: Female
marital status: Married
years married: 5
estimated marriage year: 1895
mother how many children: 1
number living children: 1
immigration year: 1868
page: 17
sheet letter: B
family number: 320
reference number: 94
film number: 1241659
digital folder number: 004118534
image number: 00624
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Buck J Giles M 44 Georgia
wife Mary Giles F 42 Ireland
son Earl T Giles M 16 Texas
daughter Pearl E Giles F 14 Texas
son Irb W Giles M 12 Texas
son Guy J Giles M 7 Texas
stepdaughter Mabel Stewart F 14 Missouri

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jan 2013 16:32

Had another look through the passenger list and it is the following person that is noted as being on List No.51, line 003:-


First Name: Mary
Last Name: Giles
Ethnicity: Great Britain, Irish
Last Place of Residence: Dallas, U.S.
Date of Arrival: Dec 29, 1908
Age at Arrival: 50y Gender: F Marital Status: W
Ship of Travel: California
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Manifest Line Number: 0003

Place of birth : Ireland
City or Town: Armagh

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jan 2013 16:25

Sorry about that, of course the aunt is on line 003, not 006.
At least it was the correct page, but that's made a lot of work for nothing. :-(

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Jan 2013 15:59

Have searched through yet again and think I may have found the appropriate"Aunt"

Bridget Rodgers aged 40 yrs seamstresss m. b Co Tyrone living PA final destination Philly

On Ellis Island data base she is on same page as Mgt.Story...2nd line down and above notation...travelling with niece...!!! Cant make out exact address she is going to but looks like Nth 2nd St. Philidelphia

That may eventually make more sense...I live in hope....!!!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 15:25

Mary I've searched all of the passenger lists on Ancestry worldwide including all US, but haven't tried Canada ....

Could you remind me why you think Margaret b 1864 first marriage was before 1882 (as mentioned in your very first post) ? How do you know she didn't marry in America.? In fact, although she said she's been married before when she wed Mr Barnshaw, how do we know that's true?

Regarding the names you don't recognise - we were only trying to establish if this mysterious aunt that young Margaret travelled with in 1908 was somehow a connection to her mother's first husband (but it appears she wasn't).

Mary

Mary Report 3 Jan 2013 15:12

Not recognizing any of these latest names, location..... this may be a red herring.
I think I may need to go back and start searching for Margaret Christy's b 1864 entry into the USA. Since her year of entry is pre-Eliis Island.... and could possibly have been thru Canada because of immigration quotas... what is the best website to go to?

PS: You all have been very generous with your research time...

Maura

Maura Report 3 Jan 2013 14:25

Yes I see where your coming from MC, my parents cousins as kids we called the aunts & uncles. But Margaret Elder was only 10 years older than Margaret Bernard. Plus there from 2 different Counties

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 14:21

I'm thinking she may have been an aunt of the close family friend type!

When I was a bairn my parent's closes friends were known to me as Aunty this and Uncle that.

Maura

Maura Report 3 Jan 2013 14:07

Census Years1901LondonderryGelvinBallynessResidents of a house
Residents of a house 47 in Ballyness (Gelvin, Londonderry)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Elder Joseph 65 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Derry Farmer Read write - Married -
Elder Rebecca 50 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Derry - Read write - Married -
Elder William 24 Male Son Presbyterian Co Derry - Read write - Not Married -
Elder Samuel 17 Male Son Presbyterian Co Derry - Read write - Not Married -
Elder Hannah 14 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Derry -


I can find no connection of this family to Christy or Bernard

Maura

Maura Report 3 Jan 2013 13:51

Joseph & Rebecca married 10th Octboer 1861 Bovevagh Presbyterian Church, Co Derry, there something not right here.

Maura

Maura Report 3 Jan 2013 13:48

Good find MC, but hows does that connect to Christy or Bernard LOL, plot thickens

Maura

Maura Report 3 Jan 2013 13:46

Yes I seen that census, there somebody on ancestry with them in their tree, but no maiden name for Margaret.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 13:45

Found her remarriage:

Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973

Name: Margaret J Storey [Margaret J Elder]
Marriage Date: 11 Sep 1912
Form Type: Marriage
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birth Place: Ireland
Father's Name: Joseph Elder
Mother's Name: Rebecca Steel
Spouse's Name: Willis E Stewart
Spouse's Age: 54
Spouse's Birth Year: abt 1858
Spouse Father's Name: John A Stewart
Spouse Mother's Name: Martha J Porter

Well, that was an awful long way round the houses just to find that the aunt that Margaret travelled with in 1908 wasn't a Christy or a Barnard!!

(Off for a lie down)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 13:35

Looks like Margaret remarried:

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Josephine Storey
Age: 14
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1920: Cleveland Ward 26, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Step Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Mother's Name: Margaret J Stewart
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
Willis F Stewart 61 b Ohio. Steam Railroad Conductor
Margaret J Stewart 36 b Ireland. Arrived US 1903, naturalised 1913.
Josephine Storey 14
Bert A Babcock 39 - boarder
William E Babcock 4 [4 7/12]

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 13:28

I found his 1911 naturalisation papers Maura - Alexander and Margaret divorced on 19 October 1910 and her whereabouts were unknown. It does say she'd been born in Ireland. I think he later married a Sarah Ann.

The 1910 said he's been married 8 years but I can't find their marriage to see what her maiden name was.

They did have a child Josephine born 17 November 1904 in Pittsburgh.

Maura

Maura Report 3 Jan 2013 13:10

According to the 1910 census, there a Alexander Storey living at 604 South Avenue Wilkinsburg, he married but there no wife with him

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 12:02

I think it's the woman below her that's from Cavan, the image I'm looking at on ancestry seems to show her as Derry. Strangely, the Ancestry version doesn't mention anything about her travelling with a niece and has her arriving 30 December .....

(just popping over to Ellis Island to look at that one)

On the outgoing manifest from Derry dated 20 December the page that Margaret Storey is listed on has "Americans" written on it at the top. On the arrival manifest it was originally dated 29 December but changed to the 30th - perhaps arrived just after midnight? (Wonder what they did on Christmas day?)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Jan 2013 11:52

You and me both...!!

The only thing I have seen on the manifest was that she was a Cavan woman..!!
Lot of help that is...

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 11:51

.... but I can't find Margaret Storey in PA in 1910 .........

There's this one but the ethnicity is wrong:

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Margaret A Story
Age in 1910: 31
Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1910: Wilkinsburg Ward 3, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Chester B Story, schoolteacher, b Mass.
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
Chester B Story 27
Margaret A Story 31
Chester B Story Jr 7 months b Pennsylvania
Jean H Hertzog 8 stepson, Pan-English ?? arrived in US 1902
Kathleen N Fogerty 20 servant