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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Jan 2013 10:37

I have located 2 Margaret Christy's for about the time Mary says Margaret arrived in US
I cannot access Ancestry to clarify any details....

Margaret Christy 21 yrs "Servant" arrival NY 16 September 1880 "Nevada" out of L.Pool and Cobh.


Margaret Christy aged 31 yrs (Wife) arrival NY 16 May 1883 " Baltic" out of L'Pool and I am sure she (The Baltic) also picked up at Cobh.
I couldn't see anyone with Margaret (eg husband).

Regarding the Anchoria and Maggie Barnard /Mgt.Rogers ...there was also a James R aged 19 (farm Lab) and a Peter R.aged 11 from Co Tyrone going to Philadelphia dont know if they were related at all to Margaret R. They boarded Moville and are on top of Manifest page.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 12:01

The 1880 arrival has no other info, other than she was from Ireland (no place given). Destination "United States". Doesn't appear to be any other Christy's on the page.

The 1883 arrival - she is the wife of Alex Christy - Gentleman. Also with them is an Emma, spinster. They all appear to be American. No further info.

Is the R after those two boys meant to stand for Rogers or is that literally what it says on the manifest? (Not finding them on Ancestry).

Maura

Maura Report 5 Jan 2013 12:20

Mary I found the baptism/births on rootsireland.ie

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Jan 2013 14:49

Maura...Both James and Peter were listed as Rogers and on same page as the Margaret's....shown between McClusky and Hayward their numbers on the manifest were 51/52 line 2/3.

Have found an Albert Barnett aged 24 arriving NY on The Adriatic out of L'Pool and Cobh September 28 1885....dont know anymore about him but havent been able to find another AB.going way back....may

Maura

Maura Report 5 Jan 2013 16:19

Erin, your going to kill me LOL, there 2 entries for Margaret Barnett/Barnard, her fathers a Oliver Barnard

Name: Margaret Barnett
Date of Birth: 02-Sep-1891
Address: Tamnamore
Parish/District: DUNGANNON
Father: Alfred Barnett
Mother: Margaret Christy
SponsorsThomas & Teresa Christy


Name: Margaret Bernard
Date of Birth: 01-Sep-1891
Date of Baptism: 11-Sep-1891
Address: Tamnamore
Parish/District: COALISLAND
Gender: Female
County TYRONE
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Oliver Bernard
Occupation: Coachman
Mother: Margaret Christie
Informant Margaret
Notes: SPONSORS RELATIONSHIP GIVEN AS GRANDMOTHER ALSO PRESENT AT BIRTH..SPONSORS FIRST NAME E. FATHERS ADDRESS GIVEN AS NEW YORK, U.S.A.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Jan 2013 16:43

Yes ...well ....you couldnt make it up could you !!! Unbelievable...

Will run with Oliver and see where it takes me...although I would be thinking the Tanaghmore one is more likely but with this family...(if its the right one who knows.)

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 19:17

EGB and Maura: food for thought as I run out the door...

occupations: Oliver Barnard: Coachman and James Barnshaw: chauffeur. I believe Barnshaw was an independent and had his own company.
This info coupled with the elderly rambling of my Aunt Tess (Theresa McAleavey Blauert) who we thought was talking about her own mother -- strange story about how she was "courting" 2 gentleman with the same/similar names.. (her version the name was Hamill, but she was a little confused at the time). The story being that Margaret wouldn't marry until she had seen the gentleman's bank books (plural!). So maybe this referred to James Barnshaw.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 19:22

Might Oliver have worked for James and then Margaret married his conveniently widowed boss?

The odd thing is that on the 1900 census Margaret Barnshaw says she is the mother of 2 children. The 2 youngest on that census, James and Mabel, certainly seem to be hers and they appear with her on later census.

So where does Margaret b1892 fit in?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Jan 2013 20:03

MarieCeleste...Lost the will to live at this moment...!!
Dont know anything anymore...!!

Mary

Mary Report 6 Jan 2013 04:49

I wouldn't doubt that Oliver and Jaems Barnshaw crossed paths.
Margaret b 1892 at the beginning of the year and her mother remarrying at the end of the same year. She could have left her child with her mother's family till she could afford to bring her to the states. That is what happened with my family. My grandmother returned to Tyrone with 5 children in 1908 and stayed there at least a year while my grandfather came to the states and tried to find work in Pittsburgh. When that didn't work out, he went back to Ireland and then moved the family back to Scotland.

Mary

Mary Report 6 Jan 2013 14:07

we are most likely looking at transcription errors. On the Irish census "mcaleavey" is spelled wrong so perhaps Margaret Barnett on the same census is really Margaret Barnard.

Maura

Maura Report 6 Jan 2013 14:20

Margaret Barnett & Margaret Barnard are the same person, the head of the household her granny states she couldn't read, but if you look at the original image she signs her name with a mark, so she could write either. It was a R.I.C. man that fill out the census, so he wasn't a Tyrone man and probably didn't understand there brogue.

Mary

Mary Report 6 Jan 2013 16:47

john b1858
his mother b 1845? she was 13 yr old? when she died in 1908 I think the death cert said she was 60 so birth year would have been 1848, something wrong here...was she a second wife? were all those children parented by Hamill/Christy?

Maura

Maura Report 6 Jan 2013 16:58

Yes all the children belong to Christy/Hamil, I wouldn't worry to much about her age being 60, it all depend on who the informant was, he/she my not of known her real age and just guess. My grt.grandmother registered her father death giving his age as 54 which would of made him 14 when she was born.

Mary

Mary Report 7 Feb 2013 17:16

to Maura, MC and EGB:
your research is great! I've been able to better track the family. The Margaret Christy Barnard Barnshaw mystery is unravelling.and I'm still referring to your research.
her first husband I located in a NYC directory listed as "Alfred Barnard, Coachman" with an address that is only a block or 2 away from her 2nd husband James Barnshaw, chauffeur. I still have to plot out trips back and forth to Ireland to try and discover the reasons for her trips at those times. Still can't find out what became of husband #1 or what became of her daughter Margaret Barnard b 1891 after her trip here to the US in 1908.
I'm posting a new thread for Patrick Christy... I think may have been the elder margaret's brother.....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Feb 2013 18:11

Mary....Just had to laugh...!!
Despite reading through the thread I cannot even work out now who the "Eldest" Margaret is/was.. and Patrick Christy well all I can say is here we go again !!
Hope Maura manages to cast her eye over the thread...

Maura

Maura Report 7 Feb 2013 18:22

I'm going to bed, I've suddenly developed a migrane LOL

Maura

Maura Report 7 Feb 2013 18:37

Mary its a waste of time starting a thread on Patrick when some of his information is already on this thread. He was born 1867 to Thomas Christie and Margaret Hamil, if that him in the census he married Katherine McCusker 1893 Phil, and according to the census he emigrated 1887.

Mary

Mary Report 7 Feb 2013 18:44

Maura, you are probably correct. Confusion was whether he was a cousin or a brother, dob varies by 10 years on the us census for this address. and his date of death doesn't line up with Irish information. What database gave you Katherines m.s.?

Mary

Mary Report 7 Feb 2013 18:46

Maura, you are probably correct. Confusion was whether he was a cousin or a brother, dob varies by 10 years on the us census for this individual. and his date of death doesn't line up with Irish information. What database gave you Katherines m.s.?