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Jonno697
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31 Dec 2012 11:03 |
Hello, I am researching into the Allan family who lived in East Hull,Yorkshire,having moved there from Scotland. I am interested as to any details of the relatives of David Allan,bn 1854? who married Eupemia Moore. I believe his parents were a John Allan and Mary? Her parents were George moore and Elizabeth Killock,bn 1812 and 1826 ish respectively. I know that one of David's G-tgrandchildren, John William Allen moved to Corby in Northamptonshire, where he died in 1988,having had 2 marriages.
Any info would be much appreciated. Regards and Happy new Year to all. John
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31 Dec 2012 11:07 |
1881 England Census about David Allan Name: David Allan Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Euphemia Allan Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Sutton and Stoneferry County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 1 Sarah Ann Terr Spyvee St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: Sutton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4747 Folio: 12 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age David Allan 27 Euphemia Allan 29 John Allan 9 George Allan 7 James Allan 1 John Moore 21 1891 England Census about David Allan Name: David Allan Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Euphemia Allan Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Sutton [with Stoneferry] Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks Town: Sutton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: Sutton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3912 Folio: 101 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age David Allan 38 Euphemia Allan 39 John Allan 19 George Allan 17 James Allan 11 Euphemia Allan 8
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patchem
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31 Dec 2012 11:08 |
Have you got the full marriage certificate of David Allan to Eupemia? This will give his Father's name on it. Have you got the family in all the censuses, as this will save us duplicating your research? Thank-you
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rootgatherer
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31 Dec 2012 11:10 |
If they married in Scotland, the marriage registration will give his mother's name including her maiden surname.
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31 Dec 2012 11:16 |
Looks like they moved back to Scotland
1901 Scotland Census about David Allan Name: David Allan Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Euphemia Allan Gender: Male Where born: Coatbridge, Lanarkshire Registration number: 282/4 Registration district: St Andrew Civil parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 8 Elizabeth Street Occupation: Clerk ED: 47 Household schedule number: 222 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1901_102 Household Members: Name Age David Allan 47 Euphemia Allan 49 Euphemia Allan 18 Kate R Allan 8
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31 Dec 2012 11:18 |
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Name: Euphemia Moore Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: George Moore Mother's Name: Elizabeth Moore Gender: Female Where born: Alyth, Perthshire Registration number: 282/1 Registration district: Dundee First District Civil parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: Dens Road Occupation: Scholar ED: 22 Household schedule number: 304 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1861_39 Household Members: Name Age George Moore 48 Elizabeth Moore 34 James Moore 18 Francis Moore 11 Euphemia Moore 9 John Moore 1 Elizabeth Cleet 35
If the above is your Euphemia, are you sure that the Elizabeth on that census is her mother? Given the age difference (unless Elizabeth's age has been mistranscribed) between George and Elizabeth and the 8 years between Euphemia and John it may be a second marriage for George?
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31 Dec 2012 11:19 |
1871 Scotland Census about David Allan Name: David Allan Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Son-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Coatbridge, Lanarkshire Registration number: 282/4 Registration district: St Andrew Civil parish: St Andrew County: Angus Address: 16 Nelson St Occupation: Calanderer ED: 12 Household schedule number: 202 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1871_52 Household Members: Name Age Max Mowe 56 <<Ireland Elphema Mowe 19 John Mowe 11 David Allan 18 Are you sure about her parents? John who is listed on the 1881 census is listed as BiL to David
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31 Dec 2012 11:26 |
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Name: George Moore Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relationship: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Moore Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Parish Number: 314 Civil parish: Newtyle Town: Newtyle County: Angus Address: North Street Occupation: Hand Loom Weaver (l ED: 1 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 17 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_68 Household Members: Name Age George Moore 35 Elizabeth Moore 24 Wife, b. Alyth John Moore 15 Son, b. Ireland James Moore 12 b. Ireland Martha Moore 8 b. Ireland Francis Moore 1 11 Mo b. Newtyle, Angus Andrew Stewart 28 Lodger, b. Redgorton, perthshire James Fergusson 40 Lodger, b. Glasgow
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2012 11:46 |
Look for their marriage on Scotlands people......you can download the cert, which will have full parental details, and will ensure that you don't have to rely on 'believing' who his parents were
Credits cost £7.00 for 30
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31 Dec 2012 11:55 |
groom's name: David Allan bride's name: Euphemia Moore marriage date: 05 Nov 1870 marriage place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland indexing project (batch) number: M11282-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516
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31 Dec 2012 12:13 |
I think George Moor and Max Mowe are the same person. It could be a transcription error?
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patchem
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31 Dec 2012 12:44 |
Just for further ref: John William Allan Birth Date: 5 Sep 1899 Date of Registration: Mar 1988 Age at Death: 88 Registration district: Wellingborough Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 7 Page: 3129
(I know that one of David's G-tgrandchildren, John William Allen moved to Corby in Northamptonshire, where he died in 1988,having had 2 marriages.)
Added: This birth? Births Dec 1899 Allan John William Sculcoates 9d 189
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31 Dec 2012 12:49 |
1911 ALLAN, James Head Married12 years M 31 1880 Railway Porter Yorkshire Hull ALLAN, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1877 Yorkshire Selby ALLAN, John William Son Single M 11 1900 School ALLAN, Lucy Daughter Single F 9 1902 ALLAN, Albert Son Single M 6 1905 ALLAN, Elsie Daughter Single F 2 1909 RG number: RG14 Piece: 28581 Reference: RG14PN28581 RG78PN1643 RD521 SD1 ED4 SN46 Registration District: Sculcoates Sub District: Southcoates Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Sculcoates Address: 1 Maye Grove Dansom Lane Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)
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Jonno697
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1 Jan 2013 15:13 |
Thanks to all re replies,will work through this and come back if need further. Once again,thanks for all posts. John
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