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Allan family from Hull and Scotland

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Jonno697

Jonno697 Report 1 Jan 2013 15:13

Thanks to all re replies,will work through this and come back if need further.
Once again,thanks for all posts.
John

patchem

patchem Report 31 Dec 2012 12:49

1911
ALLAN, James Head Married12 years M 31 1880 Railway Porter Yorkshire Hull
ALLAN, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1877 Yorkshire Selby
ALLAN, John William Son Single M 11 1900 School
ALLAN, Lucy Daughter Single F 9 1902
ALLAN, Albert Son Single M 6 1905
ALLAN, Elsie Daughter Single F 2 1909
RG number: RG14 Piece: 28581 Reference: RG14PN28581 RG78PN1643 RD521 SD1 ED4 SN46
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub District: Southcoates Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Sculcoates
Address: 1 Maye Grove Dansom Lane Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)

patchem

patchem Report 31 Dec 2012 12:44

Just for further ref:
John William Allan
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1899
Date of Registration: Mar 1988
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Wellingborough
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 7
Page: 3129

(I know that one of David's G-tgrandchildren, John William Allen moved to Corby in Northamptonshire, where he died in 1988,having had 2 marriages.)

Added:
This birth?
Births Dec 1899
Allan John William Sculcoates 9d 189

Gins

Gins Report 31 Dec 2012 12:13

I think George Moor and Max Mowe are the same person. It could be a transcription error?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2012 11:55

groom's name: David Allan
bride's name: Euphemia Moore
marriage date: 05 Nov 1870
marriage place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11282-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Reggie

Reggie Report 31 Dec 2012 11:46

Look for their marriage on Scotlands people......you can download the cert, which will have full parental details, and will ensure that you don't have to rely on 'believing' who his parents were

Credits cost £7.00 for 30

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2012 11:26

1851

Name: George Moore
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Moore
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 314
Civil parish: Newtyle
Town: Newtyle
County: Angus
Address: North Street
Occupation: Hand Loom Weaver (l
ED: 1
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 17
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_68
Household Members: Name Age
George Moore 35
Elizabeth Moore 24 Wife, b. Alyth
John Moore 15 Son, b. Ireland
James Moore 12 b. Ireland
Martha Moore 8 b. Ireland
Francis Moore 1 11 Mo b. Newtyle, Angus
Andrew Stewart 28 Lodger, b. Redgorton, perthshire
James Fergusson 40 Lodger, b. Glasgow

Gins

Gins Report 31 Dec 2012 11:19

1871 Scotland Census
about David Allan
Name: David Allan
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Coatbridge, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil parish: St Andrew
County: Angus
Address: 16 Nelson St
Occupation: Calanderer
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 202
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_52
Household Members: Name Age
Max Mowe 56 <<Ireland
Elphema Mowe 19
John Mowe 11
David Allan 18


Are you sure about her parents? John who is listed on the 1881 census is listed as BiL to David

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2012 11:18

1861

Name: Euphemia Moore
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: George Moore
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Moore
Gender: Female
Where born: Alyth, Perthshire
Registration number: 282/1
Registration district: Dundee First District
Civil parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Dens Road
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 22
Household schedule number: 304
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1861_39
Household Members: Name Age
George Moore 48
Elizabeth Moore 34
James Moore 18
Francis Moore 11
Euphemia Moore 9
John Moore 1
Elizabeth Cleet 35



If the above is your Euphemia, are you sure that the Elizabeth on that census is her mother? Given the age difference (unless Elizabeth's age has been mistranscribed) between George and Elizabeth and the 8 years between Euphemia and John it may be a second marriage for George?

Gins

Gins Report 31 Dec 2012 11:16

Looks like they moved back to Scotland


1901 Scotland Census
about David Allan
Name: David Allan
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Euphemia Allan
Gender: Male
Where born: Coatbridge, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 8 Elizabeth Street
Occupation: Clerk
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 222
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1901_102
Household Members: Name Age
David Allan 47
Euphemia Allan 49
Euphemia Allan 18
Kate R Allan 8


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2012 11:10

If they married in Scotland, the marriage registration will give his mother's name including her maiden surname.

patchem

patchem Report 31 Dec 2012 11:08

Have you got the full marriage certificate of David Allan to Eupemia?
This will give his Father's name on it.
Have you got the family in all the censuses, as this will save us duplicating your research?
Thank-you

Gins

Gins Report 31 Dec 2012 11:07

1881 England Census
about David Allan
Name: David Allan
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Euphemia Allan
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Sutton and Stoneferry
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Sarah Ann Terr Spyvee St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Sutton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4747
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
David Allan 27
Euphemia Allan 29
John Allan 9
George Allan 7
James Allan 1
John Moore 21


1891 England Census
about David Allan
Name: David Allan
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Euphemia Allan
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Sutton [with Stoneferry]
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: Sutton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Sutton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3912
Folio: 101
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
David Allan 38
Euphemia Allan 39
John Allan 19
George Allan 17
James Allan 11
Euphemia Allan 8


Jonno697

Jonno697 Report 31 Dec 2012 11:03

Hello, I am researching into the Allan family who lived in East Hull,Yorkshire,having moved there from Scotland.
I am interested as to any details of the relatives of David Allan,bn 1854? who married Eupemia Moore. I believe his parents were a John Allan and Mary?
Her parents were George moore and Elizabeth Killock,bn 1812 and 1826 ish respectively.
I know that one of David's G-tgrandchildren, John William Allen moved to Corby in Northamptonshire, where he died in 1988,having had 2 marriages.

Any info would be much appreciated.
Regards and Happy new Year to all.
John