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Canadian lookup please

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JBG

JBG Report 2 Jan 2013 10:27

Hi
Thomas Andrew vernon married Amy Elizabeth hill in Birmingham (1901) and had a son Sidney Thomas vernon b 1909. After the 1911 census they seem to disappear but ancestry show a Canadian connection? In the 1916 census. Is there someone who is able to check if this is the correct family before I subscribe to worldwide ancestry? Many thanks for your help.
Bye
Jayne
:-D

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jan 2013 10:39

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918 about Thomas Andrew Vernon

Dated 5 Dec 1915

Thomas Andrew Vernon
Residence: Weylburn, Saskatchewan
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1876
Birth Location: Birmingham, England
Relative: Amy Elizabeth Vernon
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 925027

Occupation, Boiler Attendent

You can view the image via the Canadian Archives, but someone more familiar with them would have to help

Gins

Gins Report 2 Jan 2013 10:43

1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
about Thomas Vernon
Name: Thomas Vernon
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 39
Est. Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1911
Home in 1916: 10, Weyburn, Saskatchewan
Address: Camp Hugues
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Self
Spouse's Name: Amy Vernon
Sub District Desc.: (A & B) City of Weyburn
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Vernon 39 <<Soldier
Amy Vernon 42
Sidney Vernon 7
James Vernon 3
Emily Vernon 1


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Jan 2013 10:45

Possible death:

British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
Name: Thomas Andrew Vernon
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1877
Death Age: 62
Death Date: 16 Jul 1939
Death Location: Vancouver
Registration number: 1939-09-560019
BCA Number: B13166
GSU Number: 1953626

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jan 2013 10:46

British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990

Thomas Andrew Vernon
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1877
Death Age: 62
Death Date: 16 Jul 1939
Death Location: Vancouver
Registration number: 1939-09-560019
BCA Number: B13166
GSU Number: 1953626

Canada, War Graves Registers (Circumstances of Casualty), 1914-1948 about Thomas A Vernon
Thomas A Vernon
Death Date: 16 Jul 1939
Rank: R S M
Unit: 5th Battalion
Service Number: 925027
Cemetery: I O O F Cemetery
Burial Place: Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada

Died at Shaughnessy Hospital Vancouver.
Cause – Mycarditis and Bronchial asthma
Death was due to service, authority CPC. D 14-8-39

NOK – Mrs A E Vernon (widow)
Box 405
Chilliwach B.C.

Methodist

Buried I.O.O.F. Cemetery, Chilliwack B.C.
Lawn Section
Block F
No, 73

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Jan 2013 10:47

They were there in 1911:

1911 Census of Canada

Name: Thomas Vernon
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 35
Birth Date: Oct 1876
Birthplace: Angleterre
Relation to Head of House: Chef (Head)
Spouse's Name: Anny Vernon
Immigration Year: 1911
Tribal: English
Province: Quebec
District: Richmond and Wolfe
District Number: 192
Sub-District: Asbestos
Sub-District Number: 29
Place of Habitation: Rue Poitras
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Vernon 35
Anny Vernon 39
Sidney Vernon 3

JBG

JBG Report 2 Jan 2013 10:48

Thank you so much for all this information! At least I know where they went! And I now have Canadian cousins!
Happy New Year to everyone on GR who always come up trumps!
:-D <3

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Jan 2013 10:53

Outgoing voyage:

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mrs VERNON
Date of departure: 13 May 1911
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Quebec
Destination country: Canada

Date of Birth:
Age: Adult
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: H Wife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 16 of 35
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Sidney VERNON
T A VERNON

Ship: TEUTONIC
Official Number: 96334
Master's name: R W James
Steamship Line: White Star Dominion
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 15335
Registered tonnage: 4236
Passengers on voyage: 1317

Gins

Gins Report 2 Jan 2013 10:55

Seems they hit two 1911 censuses


1911 England Census
about Sidney Thomas Vernon
Name: Sidney Thomas Vernon
Age in 1911: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Back 107 George Street West Birmingham
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 18048
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Andrew Vernon 34
Amy Elizabeth Vernon 39
Sidney Thomas Vernon 2
Georgenia Elizabeth White 53
Marrian Vernon 15


I think the Canadian census was taken in June

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jan 2013 10:57

?????

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Sydney T Vernon

Sydney T Vernon
Location: Waterloo, Ontario - R.R No.3 Kitchener
Occupation: Engineer
Electoral District: Waterloo North
Year: 1957

With Mrs Muriel Vernon,

Sydney T Vernon
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Occupation: Stat Eng
Electoral District: Ottawa West
Year: 1968
1435 Morisset Ave, Apt 204

With Mrs Muriel T Vernon

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Jan 2013 10:59

Amy's death:

British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
Name: Amy Elizabeth Vernon
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1873
Death Age: 91
Death Date: 17 Oct 1964
Death Location: Chilliwack
Registration number: 1964-09-013400
BCA Number: B13269
GSU Number: 2033722

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jan 2013 11:09

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Mrs Amy E Vernon
Mrs Amy E Vernon
Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia
Occupation: Housekeeper
Electoral District: Fraser Valley
Year: 1949

Miss Emily A Vernon, Clerk at the same address, 561 Mary

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jan 2013 11:11

Mrs Amy E Vernon
Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia
Occupation: Housewife
Electoral District: Fraser Valley
Year: 1962

With Miss Emily A Vernon, meat wpr(??)
210 Brett Ave

Margee

Margee Report 2 Jan 2013 11:22

The 1911 Canadian census is free here:

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

Attestation papers for Canadian soldiers of WW1 is free here:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html

British Columbia deaths are free here:

http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm

JBG

JBG Report 2 Jan 2013 11:38

Thanks Margee. Will make a note for future reference!
Much appreciated.
Jayne
:-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 2 Jan 2013 21:05

[AG's] 1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Quebec / Richmond-Wolfe / 29 Asbestos / page 9
3 87 Vernon Pharnal M Head M Oct 1876 35
4 87 Vernon Anny F Wife M Aug 1872 39
5 87 Vernon Sidney M Son S Jun 1908 3

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002083859.pdf
[The enumerator's writing is hard to make out - I think his addy is Rue Jeffrey - it does meet Rue du Roi. Occup looks like Mercier i.e., haberdasher, but he is employed by the mine? - no prizes for guessing what they mined in Asbestos.]
Nominal date of 1911 census was 1/6/1911, but he was enumerated on 16/6/1911.
Asbestos is 140km E of Montreal & 80km SE of Trois Rivieres.


For 1916, look up District = Weyburn Sub-District # = 10 at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1916/index-e.html
You want Division B, page 25 of 27.
[There's a "C" in col 4, i.e., Thos is not at home, but on active service somewhere in Canada. Most everyone else is on Weyburn Rd, but Thos is at Camp Hughes just E of Brandon MB - one of the main CEF training camps.]


As you'll see from a look up of his attestation papers on Margee's CEF URL, Thos was b 21/10/1876
Also, the Search help link tells you how you can purchase his service record, and has links to the unit war diaries of the 5th bn (part of the 2nd brigade of the 1st division).


For part of DetEcTive's 10:46 hits:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform-digitization/006003-110.01-e.php
You want:
Title: Veterans Death Cards: First World War
Microform: turner_m
Page 1038 of 1310
[Chilliwack is in the Fraser Valley, 100km E of Vancouver]

mgnv

mgnv Report 2 Jan 2013 21:21

James a=3 on 1/6/1916 could have been born in late 1912, so his b record could have been released today - his 1916 pob=Sask, and they have 100y closure on births - it won't be online yet, though.
http://www.isc.ca/VitalStatistics/Genealogy/vsgs_srch.aspx

JBG

JBG Report 3 Jan 2013 07:50

Thanks Mgnv. Will be checking these out. So much info.
Jayne
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:-)