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found him in 1911 census and listed as born in walsall also in farthers census listed as born in staffs
only birth i can find for this name and year(1872) plus minus 5 years is in lincolnshire
is there any way of double checking before i shell out for a cert copy
did a search for walsall in lincs but just found an electrical company
thanks

How have you got back to him please?

How is he related?

Who is your direct ancestor, coming down from him?

Do you know when he was born and who, if anyone, he married?

When and where did he die?

In, short, please tell us EVERYTHING you have on him.

Thanks,

Dea x

Simply might not have been registered as not compulsory until 1875 ish

Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births......his may be one of those not recorded.

Who was his father?

1911 this one ?

Name: Cornelus Briggs
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 79 Bishop St Birmingham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: House Painter
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 18129
Household Members: Name Age
Cornelus Briggs 39
Fanny Briggs 38
Walter Briggs 17
Lillie Briggs 14
Fanny Briggs 12
Cornelius Briggs 9
Rose Briggs 7
John Briggs 5
Alfred Briggs 3
Violet Briggs 7/12
Briggs

This is the one born in Lincs - second name ARTHUR

1891 England Census about Cornelius A Briggs
Name: Cornelius A Briggs
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Fulwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Fulwood
Town: Fulwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Broughton [Near Preston]
ED, institution, or vessel: The Barracks
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1891 or this one ?

Name: Cornelius Bregg
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Bregg
Mother's Name: Sarah Bregg
Gender: Male
Where born: Hadnall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2375
Folio: 136
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
William Bregg 56
Sarah Bregg 43
Cornelius Bregg 19
Sarah Bregg 7

1881 England Census

Name: Cornelius Briggs
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Briggs
Mother's Name: Sarah Briggs
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 70 White Road
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3019
Folio: 43
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
William Briggs 46 b. Aston
Sarah Briggs 33 b. Staffs
John Briggs 13 b. Crewe
Cornelius Briggs 9
Phoebe Briggs

If this is the one you are following then it looks to me as though the Lincolnshire birth is a completely different person!!

1911 census transcription details for: 79 Bishop St B'ham
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN18129 RG78PN1098 RD384 SD4 ED26 SN106
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Martin
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 26
Address: 79 Bishop St B'ham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BRIGGS, Cornelus Head Married M 39 1872 House - Painter Wallsall Stafs
BRIGGS, Fanny Wife Married F 38 1873 West Bromwich Stafs
BRIGGS, Walter Son Single M 17 1894 House - Painter Birmingham Warwicks
BRIGGS, Lillie Daughter F 14 1897 Boot Factor Birmingham Warwicks
BRIGGS, Fanny Daughter F 12 1899 Birmingham Warwicks
BRIGGS, Cornelius Son M 9 1902 Birmingham Warwicks
BRIGGS, Rose Daughter F 7 1904 Birmingham Warwicks
BRIGGS, John Son M 5 1906 Birmingham Warwicks
BRIGGS, Alfred Son M 3 1908 Birmingham Warwicks
BRIGGS, Voilet Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham Warwicks

Dea x

Buy the marriage cert to confirm name of father

Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Briggs Cornelius King's N. 6c 671
Instone Rosa King's N. 6c 671
Morris Fanny King's N 6c 671
Tredwell John King's N. 6c 671

thanks for all your replies

yes the one mentioned in the census is is the one i am looking for
working back from my wifes grandfather via birth and wedding certs and have got as far as cornilius so am after his birth so that i can get mothers maiden name to get correct wedding cert for his father
will have to try siblings
you would think with such an odd christian name it would be easy

Unfortunately, you can't have what doesn't exist...........and his birth wasn't registered

This MAY be his sister............

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
BRIGGS Phoebe Emily Aston 6d 255


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: Phoebe Briggs
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1881
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 162

yes thanks thats her
beat me by about 2 mins found her birth record so should be able to get back on track
thanks again everyone for your help
want to get this side of the family finished as far as i can for the wifes aunt who thought it was all a bit creepey untill i gave her a few tit bits of information and now she's hooked

??????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sarah Emery Briggs
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1883
Registration district: Tamworth
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 429