ISAAC WILLIAMS 1882 +/- ONE YR. RUTHIN DENBIGH

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Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	Jennifer	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:28
Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	He was a railway waggon sheeter at the time of his marriage and at his death he was a labourer in the tramway sheds. Whereas the suspected 1911 census shows him as more of a clerical worker.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 34,818 Send Message	Reggie	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:20
	Does his occupation when he married tally with that of the man on the 1911 census? And, of course, I'm going to point out that 'deceased' fathers didn't always actually exist as recorded.......
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Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	Jennifer	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:19
Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	Witnesses at Salford Registry office were David Massey and Elizabeth Massey. Thanks
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 34,818 Send Message	Reggie	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:17
	Even using freebmd, which is less specific then the NW site, there aren't many births for the name in the appropriate time-scale in Denbighshire Births Mar 1882 (>99%) Williams Isaac Wrexham 11b 287 Births Jun 1882 (>99%) Williams Isaac Corwen 11b 400 Births Sep 1882 (>99%) Williams Isaac Ruthin 11b 332 Births Dec 1882 (>99%) Williams Isaac Wrexham 11b 283 Williams Isaac St. Asaph 11b 322
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Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	Jennifer	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:16
Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	Thanks Reggie. Happy New Year! His marriage cert in 1916 to Maude Tetlow described his father as William Williams deceased a carpenter. Ruthin came from a bit of family hearsay I think. Denbighshire would be a safer bet.There was an Isaac Williams boarding at 41 Patey Street, North Manchester on the 1911 census
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 34,818 Send Message	Reggie	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:15
	If he's the railway worker on 1911 census, he says he was born in Denbigh If you decide to apply for a birth cert, make sure you include the info about his father's name. I assume 1916 was when he married? Who were the witnesses?
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Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 34,818 Send Message	Reggie	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:13
	North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference WILLIAMS Isaac Corwen Denbighshire South (Ruthin) CORWEN/01/72 WILLIAMS Isaac Denbigh Denbighshire South (Ruthin) DNB/20/E295 WILLIAMS Isaac Llanrhaeadr yng Nghinmeirch Denbighshire South (Ruthin) RHAEADR/06/80
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Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 34,818 Send Message	Reggie	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:08
	The only document which will have the exact DOB is the cert. Try this................... http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/ How do you know he was born in Ruthin? Did you learn his father's details from a marriage cert?
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Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	Jennifer	Report	2 Jan 2013 15:00
Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 130 Send Message	The above died on 27 March1928 in Salford Lancashire aged 45yrs. Is there any way I can find out his exact date of birth so that I can apply for a birth certificate. His father was WIlliam WIlliams a carpenter who died prior to 1916. We don't know the mother's name. There are so many Williams births. Tree searches have not found anyone who can help. I fear it will be an expensive business. Thanks to anyone who can advise. regards Jenny

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